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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 6:07 pm   #1
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Default Dynatron Ether Conqueror. Value?

good evening
would anyone know how to tell me the quotation?
the deck has been replaced
thanks
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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 6:37 pm   #2
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Very nice!

I've got one the same/similar.

There's good news and bad news and it all depends on whether you have strong feelings regarding preserving an increasingly rare vintage item. As a complete radiogram it's not worth as much as you would expect, due to its large size and shipping/transport costs limiting the market to local interest only. What you're going to find is that people will contact you regarding the removal of certain valuable parts, one part in particular being the amplifier complete with its valves and they'll ask you to pack and send that item only. I could tell you what the complete amplifier is worth, but I'll leave that for the time being, as I'm personally against breaking these grams up for 'audiophoolery' purposes...but if you really want to know then I'll spill the beans.

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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 6:53 pm   #3
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140 to 160v mains rating? Either that's been changed (at the same time as the new turntable) or it'll need powering from a transformer.

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it'll need powering from a transformer
That'll be the grey box.

At first glance I thought it was an FM conversion that's usually mounted in the same place, but on closer inspection it doesn't have the long shaft with the coupler that goes all the way up to the top, so guess it's the voltage conversion transformer.

Edit: Just added a picture of the standard FM conversion, mine hasn't got it, but I've thought about trying to obtain the bits and doing it - I've seen them come up for sale on occasion.
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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 7:11 pm   #5
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I am not interested in selling it, neither healthy nor broken by pieces, I would like to know an average evaluation for personal report
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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 7:16 pm   #6
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Well it's worth into a four figure sum in UK pounds!
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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 7:18 pm   #7
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So it's worth around 1000 pounds, that's what I expected,

Thanks a lot!
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Old 3rd Jan 2021, 7:26 pm   #8
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Yes, at least. Glad you're keeping it in one piece. Hope you've got the back cover (what I call the piano back) for it.
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Old 4th Jan 2021, 10:28 pm   #9
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post some more photos, I would like to know if you think everything is original apart from the deck, thanks to those who respond
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Looks like it's had an interesting history- fitted originally with a transformer for lower voltage mains supply, then later sensibly updated with a decent '60s autochange deck (presumably it lost the step up transformer around the same time?). The 13A plug is interesting- has it moved around between Italy and the UK during its life?

A sympathetic functional restoration would give a nice bit of furniture which could give a good account of itself on records, adding a Bluetooth or pantry transmitter interface would be a useful upgrade. Of course it could be just polished up and admired and used to stand things on....
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Yes, the AT6 Mk2A was found in better record players and radiograms from the mid-1960s e.g. many Hackers.

The Volex(?) mains plug has sleeved L&N pins so probably dates from 1984 or later.

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Old 5th Jan 2021, 3:28 pm   #12
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(presumably it lost the step up transformer around the same time?).
It hasn't - the transformer is still there and has the 'newer' mains lead connected to it.

You can see an additional single small valve matching/preamp fixed to the bottom of the tuner unit mounting board for the more modern deck cartridge - someone's homebrew possibly, but nicely done.

I've got a few pictures of mine on file somewhere, which I'll try to find later perhaps, but yours looks to be all complete with just some extra later modifications to make it more usable. There should be a slide out wooden panel beneath the record deck which seems to often go missing after someone updates the deck - don't know why this is, perhaps they just can't be bothered to put it back.
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so it is possible to confirm its value ...?
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(presumably it lost the step up transformer around the same time?).
It hasn't - the transformer is still there and has the 'newer' mains lead connected to it.

You can see an additional single small valve matching/preamp fixed to the bottom of the tuner unit mounting board for the more modern deck cartridge - someone's homebrew possibly, but nicely done.

I've got a few pictures of mine on file somewhere, which I'll try to find later perhaps, but yours looks to be all complete with just some extra later modifications to make it more usable. There should be a slide out wooden panel beneath the record deck which seems to often go missing after someone updates the deck - don't know why this is, perhaps they just can't be bothered to put it back.
So is that transformer a 240:125 job then? Why would anyone put a 13A plug on a 125V appliance? Has someone gone "Oh dear!" at some point?

WRT value..... the "value" is contained in those desirable triode output valves and by association in the complete audio amplifier unit. The cabinet and radio sections are not particularly sought after in their own right. Just look at prices being asked for a pair of those valves and add in the price of a suitable output transformer.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 12:59 pm   #15
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I would love the cabinet and tuner. Then fit any decent valve amplifier.

Maybe a Rega 78 rpm turntable. Already have the Ortofon 78 cartridge.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 1:11 pm   #16
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so it is possible to confirm its value ...?
Unfortunately valuations are difficult beyond what you have already been told.

They come up for sale infrequently and if there are two or more buyers after the item in any auction online or not then this is the sort of Gram that would attract such bidders.

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so it is possible to confirm its value ...?
To me, its value would be the pleasure of owning a rare, 70-year old piece of upmarket British engineering which can still be used, and which looks beautiful too.

Even if you ended up needing to sell the output valves to raise funds, please do ensure that the rest of the machine goes to someone who cherishes it.

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Even if you ended up needing to sell the output valves to raise funds, please do ensure that the rest of the machine goes to someone who cherishes it.
Yes, please do this!!

Minus output valves, someone who wants one can still either

(a) use valves which they happen to already have;
(b) pay through the nose for them, if not;
(c) make an adaptor to use something cheaper and available; or
(d) wait till Brimar decide there is sufficient interest to start manufacturing them.
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I am not interested in selling it, neither healthy nor broken by pieces, I would like to know an average evaluation for personal report
Perhaps the OP is looking for a value for insurance purposes?

He's already been quoted a value of £1000.00.

Unless he's looking for further information it's probably time to close this thread.
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I am not interested in selling it, neither healthy nor broken by pieces, I would like to know an average evaluation for personal report
I think everyone needs a reminder Angus69 has said he is not interested in selling or breaking this Dynatron.

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