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Old 6th Sep 2015, 6:56 pm   #1
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Default Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

(repost owing to technical hitch with original thread!)

I am currently collating data on the more well known cartridges of yore. of course I'm missing some data - does anyone have the output specs for:

the BSR TC8 M, H, S
Acos Hi G, and Acos GP104
Garrard GC-2

more to follow. Thanks!
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 11:59 pm   #2
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Apologies to all who posted, especially Ben. Due to a technical hitch, more commonly referred to as a F****p, the original thread is lost, my fault entirely. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
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Old 7th Sep 2015, 12:27 am   #3
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Not sure if this will help you or not. Vinylengine are also attempting to collate cartridge data.

http://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_database.php

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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

I wondered where the original thread had gone as I had seen it briefly after adding a post and then it vanished into cyberspace!

I have found a leaflet for the BSR TC8 and it seems there were three versions, the TC8M, TC8H/1 and TC8H/2. The latter version had a 1.1 volt output.

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Old 8th Sep 2015, 4:33 pm   #5
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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

I have now found details for the Acos GP104 culled from old Home Radio & Maplin catalogues. Maplin refer to it as the Acos 104 but I think it is the same thing.

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Old 9th Sep 2015, 12:17 am   #6
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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

Great information, the document is coming along nicely!

Am still after verifiable data on:
BSR X3M, H.
BSR X5H.
BSR SX6M, H
RONETTE STEREO 105
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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

Might have the X5H data at home, remind me if I don't get back to you, Ben, please. I'm sure I bought a couple of these NOS from "Gwarpy", complete with boxes and printed insert with specs.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 3:06 pm   #8
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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

The BSR X5H, X5M and SX6M, SX6H details from an old Maplin catalogue; the Ronette 105 details from an old Home Radio catalogue. Sorry can't find any details on the X3M & H.

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Old 9th Sep 2015, 3:36 pm   #9
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Thanks so much (again) Peter. Data added.

Still after :
BSR X3
ACOS HI- G
GARRARD GC2

Also, the data I have for the SONOTONE 9TA /9TAHC is from an American ad, and another magazine article/review so would appreciate any alterative sources for this to corroborate what I have.
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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

Details for the Sonotone 9TAHC from the Maplin catalogue.

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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

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Great information, the document is coming along nicely!

Am still after verifiable data on:
BSR X3M, H.
BSR X5H.
BSR SX6M, H
RONETTE STEREO 105
Ben, really pleased to read of your useful project. Might it be made available on the forum? I'm surprised at how much I've forgotten about which cartridge was best in what situation! I'm sure I knew back in the 70's (or maybe I wasn't so fussy back then?). Am trying to decide what to fit in a Dynatron GR8, a Garrard KS40A sounds nice, tonally but its output is rather high. Any advice would be appreciated!

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Old 24th Sep 2015, 11:43 am   #12
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Hope this helps.

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Old 24th Sep 2015, 12:10 pm   #13
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Still working on it. There's such a lot of information, it is taking a while!
I've got nearly all the BSRs done, which is the lion's share. Also quite a few Acos, need to finish the Sonotones. The 2509/3509/3559 series is a bit more complicated as there are Garrard and Pinnacle equivalents, so I need to check a lot of data to try and be sure all equivalents are listed correctly.
Watch this space. And thanks too Alex for the info, very useful.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 6:52 pm   #14
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I have quite a few details in a book published in 1964. do you mean Acos HGP33-1?.
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 10:54 pm   #15
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Default Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs.

Despite a few gaps I have at last got some semblance of a document together, as promised earlier.

At the start of the document is the main list/database. I have indicated:
-Manufactuter
-cart model,
-Styli used,
-Tracking weight in G,
-Stereo, Stereo-compatible or Mono.
-Output in mV (usually at 1 or 1.2cm/s but often this data is missing).

There then follows a collection of miscellanea on the subject: cartridge ads, spec sheets, instruction cards and general information, collated from my collection, contributions here, and that found online in various places.

I still need to finish the Sonotone section and correct one or two inaccuracies or unconfirmed details, so bear with me! The subsequent editions of the document will have any amendments/corrections, plus any updated and new information.

A always, keep the info coming and feel free to point out anything I have missed. I appreciate the help.
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Nice work Ben !
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Superb, Ben, just what we've been waiting for.

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Thanks Ben.
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Hi Ben, Thanks to you and all who helped, I have saved a copy for future reference. Norman
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