German Cossor. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Darren-UK · 28th Jul 2006, 10:45 pm

I've got a Cossor CR1350T ( see pic ) marked as 'Made in W. Germany' and with the VHF band marked UKW as would be expected.

I'm curious here; did Cossor have these made by a German firm on their behalf or did they have their own factory over there ? Was there a Philips connection at all ?

As an aside, this is a nicely made little radio but is let down by two points; 1. the tiny 2" loudspeaker and 2. the wavechanger on the rear. The scales are marked 1, 11 and 111 ( L/M/VHF respectively ) but the sliding switch on the rear is marked 11, 1, 111. This is very annoying until you get used to it.

jjl · 28th Jul 2006, 11:08 pm

Hello Darren

I believe that the domestic part of the Cossor brand would have been under Philips group control for several years by the time your set was made, so your set is most likely to be a rebadged version of another European Philips set.

John

Darren-UK · 28th Jul 2006, 11:35 pm

Thanks John, I had a suspicion there may have been a Philips connection. My radio is, incidentally, dated 27/02/64.

Paul_RK · 29th Jul 2006, 1:29 am

Hi Darren,

With apologies for a dismal photograph, here's my distinctly similar Philips L2X28/03

This one, though, was made in Holland. UK Cossor sets tended to be differently styled Philips models from about 1959/60 onwards: Cossor had made quite an early start on transistor radio production, so there are a few distinct Cossors around.

Paul

FERNSEH · 29th Jul 2006, 11:27 am

My Philips radio was made in West Germany and has the model number 2D22T/03 and is called the "Nicolette"
Manufactured in 1962.

DFWB

Darren-UK · 29th Jul 2006, 11:33 am

Thanks for the pic Paul, it's clear enough to see the similarity.

One thing which did surprise me a little, considering the Cossor is a German-made Philips in disguise, was the transistors used; 5 x AF11x, 2 x OC74 and an OC75. All are unbranded though. Other components are of mixed origin, but Valvo capacitors abound.

The Cossor badge is missing from my radio although its backplate is still present. The rather poor image on the Trader sheet shows no badge at all, at least so far as I can see.

Thanks to Fernseh also, your post appeared while I was typing this one !

Paul_RK · 29th Jul 2006, 11:36 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERNSEH

My Philips radio was made in West Germany and has the model number 2D22T/03 and is called the "Nicolette"
Manufactured in 1962.

DFWB

Yes - looks exactly like mine, including the short handle, but for a different tuning scale and the addition of the "Nicolette" badge. Interesting to know that Philips were still naming their sets, a few years after the substantial "Colette", "Annette" &c. valve portables. I assume my version is from 1962 as well: a small label inside has "4 49 62", fourth day of the 49th week?

It does seem to have been a long-standing habit with Philips to begin manufacture of at least their more ground-breaking new products at Eindhoven before taking them elsewhere. Mine was plainly intended to be suitable for several different markets, as the battery compartment comes with instructions in English, Dutch (?), German and French.

Paul

28th Jul 2006, 10:45 pm	#1
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	German Cossor. I've got a Cossor CR1350T ( see pic ) marked as 'Made in W. Germany' and with the VHF band marked UKW as would be expected. I'm curious here; did Cossor have these made by a German firm on their behalf or did they have their own factory over there ? Was there a Philips connection at all ? As an aside, this is a nicely made little radio but is let down by two points; 1. the tiny 2" loudspeaker and 2. the wavechanger on the rear. The scales are marked 1, 11 and 111 ( L/M/VHF respectively ) but the sliding switch on the rear is marked 11, 1, 111. This is very annoying until you get used to it. Attached Thumbnails

28th Jul 2006, 11:08 pm	#2
jjl Octode Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ware, Herts. UK. Posts: 1,075	Re: German Cossor. Hello Darren I believe that the domestic part of the Cossor brand would have been under Philips group control for several years by the time your set was made, so your set is most likely to be a rebadged version of another European Philips set. John

28th Jul 2006, 11:35 pm	#3
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	Re: German Cossor. Thanks John, I had a suspicion there may have been a Philips connection. My radio is, incidentally, dated 27/02/64.

29th Jul 2006, 1:29 am	#4
Paul_RK Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fakenham, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 4,124	Re: German Cossor. Hi Darren, With apologies for a dismal photograph, here's my distinctly similar Philips L2X28/03 This one, though, was made in Holland. UK Cossor sets tended to be differently styled Philips models from about 1959/60 onwards: Cossor had made quite an early start on transistor radio production, so there are a few distinct Cossors around. Paul Attached Thumbnails

29th Jul 2006, 11:27 am	#5
FERNSEH Dekatron Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 7,375	Re: German Cossor. My Philips radio was made in West Germany and has the model number 2D22T/03 and is called the "Nicolette" Manufactured in 1962. DFWB Attached Thumbnails

29th Jul 2006, 11:33 am	#6
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	Re: German Cossor. Thanks for the pic Paul, it's clear enough to see the similarity. One thing which did surprise me a little, considering the Cossor is a German-made Philips in disguise, was the transistors used; 5 x AF11x, 2 x OC74 and an OC75. All are unbranded though. Other components are of mixed origin, but Valvo capacitors abound. The Cossor badge is missing from my radio although its backplate is still present. The rather poor image on the Trader sheet shows no badge at all, at least so far as I can see. Thanks to Fernseh also, your post appeared while I was typing this one !