Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Boom · 12th Feb 2010, 9:15 pm

Oh dear I've made a boo-boo.

While playing with the Aurora I held the options button down on position one and now have a mish mash of Emmerdale where testcard C should be.

I have a high quality good .jpeg of testcard C but when I copy it to a DVD and try to play it I just get a very poor mess with mashed up fHz gratings.

I have the Southwest Museum testcard DVD. These cards copy fine into the Aurora but the TCC has ITA as an ID I don't have a TCC without an ID.

It seems that the Aurora doesn't like the .jpeg's coming off my DVD player and is only happy with a video.

What do I do to get TCC back on the Aurora?

Thanks - Dave

KeithsTV · 12th Feb 2010, 10:18 pm

Something like this happened to the Aurora I borrowed to test my TV22 but from memory the image in the Aurora was the wrong size. I had a copy of TCC and made it into a DVD using a video editing package and re-stored in the Aurora.

I'll check the TCC copy I have as to its resolution but if you PM me I'll send you my email address and you can send me the hi res copy and I'll put it on a DVD and send it back to you.

Keith

Boom · 12th Feb 2010, 10:47 pm

Thanks Keith. I put the .jpg into Nero and made a video slideshow DVD of it and it's fine. I can pause it now and grab it.

There's probably a far easier way to do it.

Dave

KeithsTV · 12th Feb 2010, 11:06 pm

Sounds similar to the method I used, although I made a DVD with Test Cards C and F on, about 20mins of each.

Don't forget to wait for any pause symbols from the DVD to disappear otherwise they'll appear on the Aurora

but I'm sure you don't need to be reminded of that).

Keith

tubesrule · 13th Feb 2010, 12:13 am

You can download the file I use to flash the units here:

http://www.tech-retro.com/Aurora_Des...downloads.html

It's an uncompressed QT file so it's rather large, but it's full quality and correctly sized for a DVD.

Darryl

Boom · 13th Feb 2010, 1:05 pm

Thanks Darryl. How do I use this? It either sticks on TCA or if I burn it to a DVD rushes through all the cards. I can't seem to get any control over it.

Dave

HamishBoxer · 13th Feb 2010, 1:49 pm

I have a testcard c generator if anyone needs a good copy.

David

tubesrule · 13th Feb 2010, 2:13 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Tilley

Thanks Darryl. How do I use this? It either sticks on TCA or if I burn it to a DVD rushes through all the cards. I can't seem to get any control over it.

Dave

If you have full control over your authoring software you can have it auto pause at each frame, or just duplicated each frame to enough times to give you a few minutes of playback, and then make the start of each frame a chapter so you can go right to it.

Darryl

Boom · 13th Feb 2010, 2:14 pm

Thanks David. The best TCC I have (which is pretty good) is 768X576 pixels. fHz right up to 3MHz.

If yours can outdo that I would be very grateful.

Dave

HamishBoxer · 13th Feb 2010, 2:39 pm

This is the digital testcard c generator from Kieth Hamer i believe in Derby,many years ago.The meg bars go up to the limit an excellent piece of kit.So can easy put on dvd ,not sure wether could email it.Not sure how much space it needs not that i cant find out.Let me know if needed i dont there is better copy going than this.Cant remember off hand wether its just got C on it or BBC C.

David PS Back online later today

Boom · 13th Feb 2010, 3:39 pm

I'd appreciate this David. I'll PM you

Dave

murphyv310 · 14th Feb 2010, 2:18 am

Hi.
I made up my own test card "C" by changing the "C" with MS Paint to my own logo. I then programmed my RT Russell testcard test card generator with it on 625 and used this to re-programme my auroras with this modified card..
It works 100% OK and of course the RT Russell generator can then be fed with a different pattern if need be.
Trevor

brunel · 14th Feb 2010, 3:09 pm

T.C. C Grabbed from the Aurora .mov file

BGmidsUK · 15th Jun 2010, 9:51 pm

Sorry to bump an old thread, it's been on my "round tuit" pile for ages

What are the recommended dimensions for images? Reason I ask is that I tried using 720x576 and the test card is narrower on units flashed with images recorded onto a DVD (I used it in play mode having recorded 5 minutes of each test card) than the unit I am retaining the original Test card C on (I need an accurate reference with regards to both size and greyscale so I won't change that one!) - The screen on my Sony has noticeable black bands either side with the flashed units.

I'm using Nero software to compile the DVD if that helps.

Also does anyone have an image of TCD with the BBC1 405 LINES ident?

Many thanks

Brian

julie_m · 16th Jun 2010, 9:55 am

To find out what the image size of any movie file is, just run

Code:

$ ffmpeg -i filename

It will die with an error, since you didn't specify an output file; but before it does that, it will helpfully spit out the vital statistics.

murphyv310 · 18th Jun 2010, 8:59 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunel

T.C. C Grabbed from the Aurora .mov file

Hi.
The aspect ratio doesn't look correct

See my post on https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...t=53921&page=7 post 131

12th Feb 2010, 9:15 pm	#1
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. Oh dear I've made a boo-boo. While playing with the Aurora I held the options button down on position one and now have a mish mash of Emmerdale where testcard C should be. I have a high quality good .jpeg of testcard C but when I copy it to a DVD and try to play it I just get a very poor mess with mashed up fHz gratings. I have the Southwest Museum testcard DVD. These cards copy fine into the Aurora but the TCC has ITA as an ID I don't have a TCC without an ID. It seems that the Aurora doesn't like the .jpeg's coming off my DVD player and is only happy with a video. What do I do to get TCC back on the Aurora? Thanks - Dave

12th Feb 2010, 10:18 pm	#2
KeithsTV Nonode Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 2,573	Re: Accidentally removed TCC from Aurora Something like this happened to the Aurora I borrowed to test my TV22 but from memory the image in the Aurora was the wrong size. I had a copy of TCC and made it into a DVD using a video editing package and re-stored in the Aurora. I'll check the TCC copy I have as to its resolution but if you PM me I'll send you my email address and you can send me the hi res copy and I'll put it on a DVD and send it back to you. Keith

12th Feb 2010, 10:47 pm	#3
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Accidentally removed TCC from Aurora Thanks Keith. I put the .jpg into Nero and made a video slideshow DVD of it and it's fine. I can pause it now and grab it. There's probably a far easier way to do it. Dave

12th Feb 2010, 11:06 pm	#4
KeithsTV Nonode Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 2,573	Re: Accidentally removed TCC from Aurora Sounds similar to the method I used, although I made a DVD with Test Cards C and F on, about 20mins of each. Don't forget to wait for any pause symbols from the DVD to disappear otherwise they'll appear on the Aurora but I'm sure you don't need to be reminded of that). Keith

13th Feb 2010, 12:13 am	#5
tubesrule Hexode Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 325	Re: Accidentally removed TCC from Aurora You can download the file I use to flash the units here: http://www.tech-retro.com/Aurora_Des...downloads.html It's an uncompressed QT file so it's rather large, but it's full quality and correctly sized for a DVD. Darryl

13th Feb 2010, 1:05 pm	#6
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. Thanks Darryl. How do I use this? It either sticks on TCA or if I burn it to a DVD rushes through all the cards. I can't seem to get any control over it. Dave

13th Feb 2010, 1:49 pm	#7
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,935	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. I have a testcard c generator if anyone needs a good copy. David

13th Feb 2010, 2:14 pm	#9
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. Thanks David. The best TCC I have (which is pretty good) is 768X576 pixels. fHz right up to 3MHz. If yours can outdo that I would be very grateful. Dave

13th Feb 2010, 2:39 pm	#10
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,935	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. This is the digital testcard c generator from Kieth Hamer i believe in Derby,many years ago.The meg bars go up to the limit an excellent piece of kit.So can easy put on dvd ,not sure wether could email it.Not sure how much space it needs not that i cant find out.Let me know if needed i dont there is better copy going than this.Cant remember off hand wether its just got C on it or BBC C. David PS Back online later today

13th Feb 2010, 3:39 pm	#11
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. I'd appreciate this David. I'll PM you Dave

14th Feb 2010, 2:18 am	#12
murphyv310 Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, UK. Posts: 5,422	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. Hi. I made up my own test card "C" by changing the "C" with MS Paint to my own logo. I then programmed my RT Russell testcard test card generator with it on 625 and used this to re-programme my auroras with this modified card.. It works 100% OK and of course the RT Russell generator can then be fed with a different pattern if need be. Trevor __________________ Cheers, Trevor. MM0KJJ. RSGB, GQRP, WACRAL, K&LARC. Member

14th Feb 2010, 3:09 pm	#13
brunel Heptode Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: LEEDS.......North of the River Aire. Posts: 872	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. T.C. C Grabbed from the Aurora .mov file Attached Thumbnails

15th Jun 2010, 9:51 pm	#14
BGmidsUK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester, UK. Posts: 809	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. Sorry to bump an old thread, it's been on my "round tuit" pile for ages What are the recommended dimensions for images? Reason I ask is that I tried using 720x576 and the test card is narrower on units flashed with images recorded onto a DVD (I used it in play mode having recorded 5 minutes of each test card) than the unit I am retaining the original Test card C on (I need an accurate reference with regards to both size and greyscale so I won't change that one!) - The screen on my Sony has noticeable black bands either side with the flashed units. I'm using Nero software to compile the DVD if that helps. Also does anyone have an image of TCD with the BBC1 405 LINES ident? Many thanks Brian

16th Jun 2010, 9:55 am	#15
julie_m Dekatron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Derby, UK. Posts: 7,735	Re: Accidentally removed Test Card C from Aurora. To find out what the image size of any movie file is, just run Code: $ ffmpeg -i filename It will die with an error, since you didn't specify an output file; but before it does that, it will helpfully spit out the vital statistics. __________________ If I have seen further than others, it is because I was standing on a pile of failed experiments.