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Old 28th Jan 2018, 9:26 pm   #141
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What do you mean by 4 tags? And I've been told not to solder to the cartridge, so I assume you mean after I've soldered the cables to the board? I don't have any although if you have a link for them I'd be more than happy to buy them myself.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 10:00 pm   #142
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No, as aready explained in some detail, you solder the cartridge connecting tags to the wires first. Then, and only then, do you push fit them onto the cartridge pins.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 10:28 pm   #143
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No, as aready explained in some detail, you solder the cartridge connecting tags to the wires first. Then, and only then, do you push fit them onto the cartridge pins.
So I solder the actual wire to the pins on the cartridge, then I push the plastic wire covering over the pins?

EDIT: Disregard, it figures I don't have any tags. So I need to order some.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 10:32 pm   #144
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NO!

You solder to wire the a push on tag, then push the tag on to the pin of the cartridge.

The important thing is not to put a hot soldering iron anywhere near the cartridge, it will destroy it.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 11:20 pm   #145
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Oh and also the cartridge I ordered has four connections, but there is only two wires. What should I connect? Also where is the internal connection for the cartridge wires?
The cartridge will be stereo, hence the four connections, two for the left channel and two for the right channel, often marked R+ & R - and L+ & L-, connect the R + and the L+ together, then connect R- and L- together, call the first pair the signal out and the second pair the signal ground, now referring to your original photo of the component side of the amplifier connect the signal out on the cartridge to the lower tag on the far left hand side of the board and connect the signal ground on the cartridge to the tag that's above the lower one on the board.

Warning/Note.......Do not solder direct to the cartridge pins, you will have to use suitable push on connectors....Note also....Do not fit connectors to the cartridge pins and solder to the connectors....Heat will damage the cartridge. In other words no soldering iron near the cartridge.

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Here's a typical push on cartridge pin connector:

https://www.tubesandmore.com/product...dge-assortment

The left half is what pushes onto the cartridge pin but only after the soldering has been done, the connector is best held lightly in a small vice or crocodile clip or something similar, the connecting wire is stripped back a bit and tinned and the tinned bit is laid in the narrow cradle to the right and soldered in place, when it's cooled down the wire clamps on the far right hand side are bent and crimped over the wires insulation, only then should the connector be pushed on to the cartridge pin.

Look at the last picture in this link:

https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/cart...stitution.html

It shows the connectors pushed on to the cartridge pins after the wires have been soldered, it also shows what you need to achieve for connecting the left and right channel outputs of the cartridge together, here they've done a Y configuration the two wires to the amplifier would be connected to the tail of each Y one being the signal ground and the other being the signal feed, another way to do it is to do the parallel connections using a small loop of wire and connect the signal feed wire to either tag, same for the signal ground wire.

Some careful neat soldering needed but the job as a whole isn't rocket science.

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Old 29th Jan 2018, 8:41 am   #146
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OHHH, okay, I get it now. Solder the wire to the tag and then push the tag on-to the cartridge. Right. Got it. Looks like the wire bridging is just what I expected it to be too.

Also, would the tag you listed fit my cartridge?
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 8:40 am   #147
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I've been doing some research and I've figured out exactly what I need to order. Should be getting to work on it again very soon.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 12:28 pm   #148
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 9:12 pm   #149
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Presumably then, you've lashed it all up temporarily and found it to be all functioning as it should? If you're now ordering more components for it

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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 8:50 am   #150
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Well no, I only just figured out everything about cartridge tags haha.

But after a little more soldering it should be ready for a first test!
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 10:10 am   #151
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Apologies about this all taking so long, my soldering skills are terrible. I have got the cartridge tags now, so all should be ready to go once I've got that wired up.
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Old 2nd Apr 2018, 6:06 pm   #152
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Just bumping this so it doesn't get deleted along with my account. It is almost done, having issues with my soldering iron though.
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Yay
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 9:30 pm   #155
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Keep forgetting to ask my dad to help me solder (I'm helpless on my own)

I'll try and get it finished by the end of this week.
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And I would also check the condition of the stylus & cartridge since they seem to be very non-standard and made of unobtanium! That plus the amplifier makes it very unlikely to be worthwhile spending much time on it.
I agree, I have one of these players and I could never find a replacement cartridge that would fit inside the very small headshell

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