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Old 29th May 2023, 1:01 pm   #1
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Default Mystery transformer

CAn anyone identify this odd transformer?

It's marked A M Ref No. 10K/13259

Four terminals marked IP OP IS OS - meaning obvious!

DC resistance primary 4.5 ohm, secondary 1250 ohm. Turns ratio roughly 30:1.

The turns ratio is too high for an intervalve Tx, the resistance readings are the wrong way round for an output Tx.

Perhaps a matching Tx? But for what?
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Old 29th May 2023, 1:04 pm   #2
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Default Re: Mystery transformer

Picture of the item might help

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Old 29th May 2023, 1:28 pm   #3
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Default Re: Mystery transformer

IP = Plate

IO = B+

IS = Bias -ve

IO = Grid.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=152667

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Old 29th May 2023, 2:08 pm   #4
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Quote:
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IP = Plate

IO = B+

IS = Bias -ve

IO = Grid.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=152667

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Correction to above:

IP =B+

OP = Plate

IS = Bias -ve

OS = Grid.

Lawrence.
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Old 29th May 2023, 4:23 pm   #5
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Default Re: Mystery transformer

As others have suggested , could this be an input transformer for use with a carbon microphone??

The step up ratio would be good to deliver a nice voltage swing to the grid of an intercom or low power transmitter modulator.
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Old 29th May 2023, 6:12 pm   #6
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Mods permitting for possible ID purposes only, I wonder if the transformer in the schematic that's shown in the link below for the Air Ministry Type I Microphone Tester could be a contender? (I've not seen the innards of one):

https://mullardantiques.co.uk/produc...de-by-ferranti

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Old 29th May 2023, 6:21 pm   #7
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Default Re: Mystery transformer

A picture next to a ruler would help identify possibilities of use.
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Old 29th May 2023, 7:36 pm   #8
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Default Re: Mystery transformer

I looked up 10K/13259 in AP1086. This is the description it gave:


"10K/13259 Type 870 ... ... Primary, 200 turns of 34 S.W.G. wire. Secondary, 700 turns
of 42 S.W.G. wire.
"

So the turns ratio is 7:2, not 30:1 as you describe. Did you measure the transformer yourself? If so, I suggest double checking your measurement method....

Your resistance figures are no doubt right, so it could well be an intervalve transformer. My copy of the 10K section is dated 1943, so I suppose its possible that a rather antiquated component could still be listed at that date.


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Old 29th May 2023, 10:07 pm   #9
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I provided the details of this transformer from AP1086 Section 10K when the OP first asked the question in 2018.

The link provided by Lawrence in post #3 refers back to the 2018 thread.

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Old 30th May 2023, 10:29 am   #10
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The transformer in the Type 1 Microphone Tester I mentioned earlier can be eliminated, the ref. for the one fitted in the tester is 10a/3365.

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