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12th Dec 2017, 8:50 pm | #1 |
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Record Player Queries
Hi. Iv'e seen a Bush Midi Hi Fi 9560 for sale, and also a record player very much like a Dansette but called a Falcon.This is fitted with BSR Monarch turntable and a medium[ Brown Crystal Cartridge]. Can any body give any info. on these two machines.
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12th Dec 2017, 10:01 pm | #2 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
Forget about the Bush - cheap and nasty and full of issues by now. The Falcon is OK probably from about 1958, but it is bound to need work doing to it and that brown (TC8M) cartridge can't be used for stereo records.
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13th Dec 2017, 11:48 am | #3 |
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Bush Query
Hi. Iv'e seen a bush Midi[Mini] Hi fi for sale. It is a double cassette radio and record player. Can anyone give any info. on this machine.Is it any good?
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13th Dec 2017, 12:25 pm | #4 |
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Re: Bush Query
Could you post a pic of the unit (or a link to a photo of a similar unit)?
Chances are though that this is a budget unit made long after Bush was a quality British manufacturer. Even if I were in the market for a cheap record player, I would be very reluctant to pay more than about £10-£20 tops for it. However, it may still perform better than the current crop of "retro" GPO/Crossley gadgets. Nick. |
13th Dec 2017, 2:04 pm | #5 | |
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Re: Bush Query
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After only a few plays they may produce audible groove wear! They should come with a health warning for your LPs, see here: - https://musehelix.com/crosley-cruiser-review/
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13th Dec 2017, 9:08 pm | #6 |
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Re: Bush Query
As advised earlier, stay well clear of the Bush. You also say you are also interested in a much older Halycon record player. These 2 units are so far apart in terms of technology and features they give us a very poor understanding of what you are actually looking for!
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13th Dec 2017, 9:18 pm | #7 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
I dont believe that for a second! 5 grams? The guy is obviously talking out his rear end.
I have two of these players and they have not damaged any records I've played on them, in my opinion there probably isn't enough tracking force as the arm weighs next to nothing. |
13th Dec 2017, 9:31 pm | #8 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
I wouldn't trust a review site that uses an image like THIS!
These are poor starter record players, lot's of disappointment for young people paying £20 a pop for their new vinyl.
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14th Dec 2017, 12:42 pm | #11 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
Regarding Records - post 7 comments about tracking weight. Take a look at one of the stickies - cartridge data - it is surprising, to me, the range of tracking weight on some of the older cartridges.
I have no knowledge of the one under discussion but using a pressure gauge will obviously settle any misunderstanding. Cheers, John. |
14th Dec 2017, 12:52 pm | #12 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
Neat makeshift homemade stylus pressure gauge here:
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=89.60 Graham
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14th Dec 2017, 12:52 pm | #13 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
I find the 80's Technics like QD33, DD33 to be reliable and good value. For around £60 you can get a direct drive deck, quartz locked, automatic operation, proper tonearm bearings, nice looking etc. I had budgeted £300 for a new player but instead spent £70 on an QD33 and £200 on a Jico SAS stylus for the original cartridge. Sounds lovely.
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14th Dec 2017, 1:34 pm | #14 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
Good choice of Technics deck - the QD33 has a tracking weight of 1.25g.
I recently fully refurbished a Technics SL-QL1 direct drive turntable and also added a Jico SAS stylus, fantastic performance.
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15th Dec 2017, 3:06 pm | #15 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
Hi. Well i bought the Bush and it works just fine. The records play OK and the two cassette players work well, as does the radio. Iv'e just recorded a album onto cassette and i'm listening to the replay at this moment and it sounds good. The speakers are two way and they sound pretty good, far better than the tiny speakers on a Crossly. I don't know the tracking weight on this player.
But i will be making cassette copies of my albums. And then play them on this unit.I got this unit from the British Heart Foundation for £25 and that was worth it for the cassette players alone, By the way they had a label that said it was in fully working condition, And i kept the receipt because they said if it was not i could return it. All the best. Hoddbod. |
15th Dec 2017, 3:38 pm | #16 |
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Re: Record Player Queries
Result. You're happy with it, and that's the whole point of listening to music. You may wish to upgrade later, but for now, enjoy.
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