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Old 5th Jan 2007, 10:13 pm   #1
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Default In praise of the Bush TV24.

The Bush TV24 must be one of the most unfortunate of early 1950s TV receivers. Until recently most of them were broken up to be nothing more than a source of spare parts for it's smaller brother, the TV22.

Sure it doesn't look much, a bit plain looking perhaps, but like all Bush TV sets it is beautifully made.

I must confess I was one of the many who chopped up a TV24 for the parts, including a rare TV24C, the dual band version.

Anyway, last week I decided to give my own TV24 a service and the results can be seen on the attached pictures.

No variacs were used during the servicing of this set.

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Old 5th Jan 2007, 10:20 pm   #2
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

I agree

Nice, well built, sets.
Well worth the effort of restoring
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Old 6th Jan 2007, 12:14 am   #3
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

I like these sets, a better choice of the same sets of the period; the earlier ones with round screens are very attractive to me.

I don't have one myself; just TV12 and 22, but I do have a TUG12 console with doors, the chassis of which I find more attractive than the cabinet.

I presume these are all based on similar designs internally following the upratings, as the TV12 to 22, 22a etc?

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Old 7th Jan 2007, 8:40 pm   #4
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

Hi Fernseh and everyone.

I like the old Bush TV24 too. They're excellent. I've enclosed a picture of my TV.

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Old 7th Jan 2007, 8:50 pm   #5
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

A sad story with a (fairly) happy ending...

While at University and living in Selly Oak (1994) I spotted a sad-looking TV24 put out for the bin men. Back missing, valves long gone, tube smashed, chassis generally fiddled with. Obviously, I grabbed it.

Next week, the house clearance shop at the other end of the road was throwing out some non-working modern TVs, amongst which was a Ferguson 12" mono set fitted with the Thorn 1790 chassis (their last mono portable, I think, using the Motorola "Monomax" jungle chip). All it needed was a new line OP transistor and then it was like new. But even as a poor student, the appeal of B&W portables was minimal (except the low licence fee).

So I stripped and French polished the TV24 case, and used Brasso to get the Bakelite gleaming. Then I fitted the Thorn 1790 chassis & Mullard 12" tube into the old cabinet. The big LH knob became power/volume, the right was linked to a rotary switch and some multiturn pots to provide channel selection, and the little ones were used to control brightness and contrast.

I appreciate that this kind of thing will NOT impress the purists here, but it saved two items from landfill, and gave a lot of pleasure for many years. I had it until 3 years ago, when I gave it away due to lack of space.

Sorry about the poor photos - the gleaming woodwork and Bakelite looked wonderful in real life.

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Old 7th Jan 2007, 9:32 pm   #6
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

I have done this before, but only to something unsaveable in original state.
I fitted a windup Baygen radio into a late 20s transportable Marconi radio cabinet with very pleasing results.

The only thing that lets that conversion down is the tube shape; but fun to do and you weren't destroying anything, just bringing it back to life.
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Old 7th Jan 2007, 10:20 pm   #7
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. It would have been nicer if it could have fitted behind the original mask, even if the height and width needed adjusting to reduce the amount of picture lost off the edges.
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Old 7th Jan 2007, 10:35 pm   #8
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Yes, that's what I was thinking. It would have been nicer if it could have fitted behind the original mask, even if the height and width needed adjusting to reduce the amount of picture lost off the edges.
True. But the original mask was perished beyond redemption. I could certainly have painted the wooden surround a more appropriate colour though.
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Old 7th Jan 2007, 11:32 pm   #9
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

Only one criticism about the TV24. It requires a lot more work to do when the chassis has to be withdrawn from the cabinet. The brightness and on-off volume controls are fitted on separate brackets.

It's much easier on the TV22, just loosen the front control knobs, remove four screws and and the chassis comes out en bloc, speaker and controls included.

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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

Hello Fernseh,
I quite agree, the Bush TV24 12" table model has had a unfairly cruel life! My favourite is the TUG24 console. This is a fine looking set and many of these sets were still giving good service well into the colour era.
My example was presented to me by a customer in the mid 1970's. They had bought it new, had it converted to I.T.A. with the Bush tuner and replaced it with a Toshiba colour television in 1977! Only 2 years later Toshiba would own the very factory where their old TUG24 was manufactured. Chickens coming home to roost! The set is exactly as I obtained it and the attached 'period' picture was taken about 2 years ago in my 'museum'. Most of the components including the capacitors are original.
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Old 8th Jan 2007, 10:24 pm   #11
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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

Not to mention keeping that CRT supported somehow before it slides forward and puts all its weight on the neck (eeeeaakkk)! What a daft arrangement that is, eh?
Never mind, there are probably worse things out there.

I still like them though.


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Hello Fernseh,
My favourite is the TUG24 console. Only 2 years later Toshiba would own the very factory where their old TUG24 was manufactured. Chickens coming home to roost! The set is exactly as I obtained it and the attached 'period' picture was taken about 2 years ago in my 'museum'. Most of the components including the capacitors are original.
Talking of TUG24's and museums, they have two of these in working order at the NMPFT Bradford, though only one is on show at a time.

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Default Re: In praise of the Bush TV24.

Yes the TV24 is excellent set, much better than its little sister the TV22, it has a decent wooden cabinet not the cheapo plastic junk on the TV22 and also a massive 12 inch tube!

My TV24 had a nice history, it was sold in 1952 and went faulty 18 months later, the selling dealer took the set back for repair but was unable to effect a repair. The set was then looked at by a Bush field tech to no avail, a free replacement was then offered to the customer.

The faulty set was never collected by Bush; I luckily obtained the set when the dealer closed a couple of years ago, the original fault was a leak in the frame blocking osc tranny between the primary and secondary (how, I don't know) after a major cap re-change it was the best TV24 I have seen with a minted CRT & cabinet.

I sold this for good money during my 'broke' period when the workshop was shutting, I wish I still had it!

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Old 13th Jan 2007, 11:52 pm   #14
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That is a trully excellent picture. Is the test card displayed from your DVD?

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Hi Alan.

Thank you. The picture being displayed is actually from a little test-card generator gadget.

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