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15th Mar 2020, 2:05 am | #1 |
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Philips 12NC code numbers (on request and as requested)
Philips210 asked for some information on Philips code numbers in https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...64&postcount=6
Since such questions come up from time to time, it may be better to answer them in a common thread. Requests for information or explanation can also be posted here. The 12NC coding system was implemented starting in 1963 and is still in use in some Philips and former Philips locations. It was thought up to reflect the matrix business model that Philips used to have but is quite versatile and well thought out. Last edited by Maarten; 15th Mar 2020 at 2:15 am. |
15th Mar 2020, 2:12 am | #2 |
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Re: Philips 12NC code numbers (on request and as requested)
The first two digits are called "code group" and started out corresponding to a main industry group or industry group so they indicate the kind of product the number refers to.
The interpretation of the remaining 10 digits is determined by the code group, even though the meaning is relatively consistent between code groups. Code groups 01 through 82 mostly follow the same pattern, with the exception of 48 and 53. Code groups from 85 through 98 are commercial numbers, what we would call SKU's in modern jargon and may or may not follow similar patterns. Most relevant for this forum are code groups 31 for consumer electronics (originally main industry group "radio, gramophone and television") 35 for telecom 39 for electro acoustics 40 for professional electronics 42 for appliances and large appliances 46 (later) for large appliances 48 and 53 for service parts (not an industry group but straight under the core organisation) 85 (later) for large appliances 86 and 90 for consumer electronics 88 for appliances and large appliances 95 for telecom Last edited by Maarten; 15th Mar 2020 at 2:42 am. |
15th Mar 2020, 2:31 am | #3 |
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Re: Philips 12NC code numbers (on request and as requested)
The third and fourth digits are called "coding centre". This often corresponds to a national organisation (read: country), but can be a product group or business unit (I don't know the official jargon for that case).
These numbers also correspond to the first two digits of model numbers as often used (but sometimes omitted) from 1966 on. This is because the model number corresponds/maps to the SKU and the SKU is a 12NC. Though it often correlates, this is NOT meant to indicate the country of manufacture! Rather, it indicates the origin of the design or of the commercial specification (especially in SKU's). It started out as an alphabetical listing (with some flaws in bold, if anyone knows why, I'd like to know), but as national and other organisations were added, the assignment happened in order of appearance. Numbers up to and including 37 were taken from a 1967 internal list from Philips. I haven't spotted all of them in the wild. Some may have never been used or only used much later (I'm not aware of any Polish activity before 1989, though Philips might have had some kind of organisation in Yugoslavia). 01 Argentina 02 Australia 03 Austria 04 Belgium 05 Colombia 06 Brasil 07 Canada 08 Denmark 09 Chile 10 Finland 11 France 12 Germany 13 Great Britain 14 Greece 15 India 16 Indonesia 17 Nigeria 18 Ireland 19 Italy 20 Japan 21 Mexico 22 Netherlands 23 New Zealand 24 Norway 25 Peru 26 Salvador 27 Polen 28 Portugal 29 South Africa 30 Spain 31 Sweden 32 Switzerland 33 Turkey 34 Uruguay 35 USA 36 Venezuela 37 Yugoslavia 38 Taiwan 39 Singapore 40 Hong Kong 41 China? 42 China? 43 Hungary Then some higher numbers were assigned mostly used for audio related stuff, often seen in SKU's and not often in the lower numbered code groups. 66 (seen on hifi from Sweden) 67 (seen on a portable radio from Japan) 69 (seen on various car radios) 70 (central product range from Eindhoven, still in use) 74, 75 Marantz 90 Far East (seems to have also been used for Singapore before 39 was assigned and for Hong Kong before 40 was assigned) Last edited by Maarten; 15th Mar 2020 at 2:51 am. |
15th Mar 2020, 8:44 am | #4 |
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Re: Philips 12NC code numbers (on request and as requested)
Maarten, from what I know, the following was used:
countries: 41 Peoples Republic of China 42 Republic of Korea 44 Romania Jac |
15th Mar 2020, 7:09 pm | #5 |
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Re: Philips 12NC code numbers (on request and as requested)
Thanks Jac, that's a very good addition!
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