CRT with text - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

toshiba tony · 25th Mar 2020, 12:48 pm

Hello All,
getting bored vegetating. Not a quiz, this is for my own satisfaction. Which manufacturer did a set that enabled you to watch text at the side of the normal picture as opposed to super imposing it over the picture. Been in the trade all my adult life but it's leaving me vacant. It was one of the last crt chassis they produced. All I remember is the manufacturer came and gave us a demo on how to repair the things, they replaced the optos in the psu, put one in the wrong way round and blew the psu. It could have been either Sharp, Toshiba, Sony or LG. I worked for them all.

25th Mar 2020, 12:52 pm

Is that TeleText?

toshiba tony · 25th Mar 2020, 1:19 pm

Sorry, yes, Fast-Text

electronicskip · 25th Mar 2020, 2:02 pm

Diddnt Sanyo produce something like that within their PIP (Picture in Picture) set series?

gallowfields · 25th Mar 2020, 3:54 pm

From memory I think Philips was the first to do this, not sure whether it was the A10 chassis or B4.

Maarten · 25th Mar 2020, 7:18 pm

I'm sure more than one brand did this, but at least Philips. Possibly already in the GFL chassis mid to late 1990's but surely in the MG chassis series.

Edit after reading last post above: In 100Hz chassis this is relatively simple, I'm not sure about 50Hz chassis but the painter chip in the A10 was reasonably powerfulfor its time.

I'm also sure that Sony did this, so that might be the one you remember.

G6Tanuki · 25th Mar 2020, 7:49 pm

I remember the picture-in-picture thing: my parents went to a Suffolk holiday-cottage where the TV had this feature and they managed to enable it then couldn't work out how to turn it off!

Of course phoning me for assistance turned out to not be that useful given that I couldn't see all the buttons available on the remote or the on-screen messages.

HamishBoxer · 25th Mar 2020, 9:36 pm

The painter chip in the A10 was horrific with all the odd ball faults it caused,the most common was switching off.

ben · 25th Mar 2020, 11:50 pm

ITT/Nokia did a set with that feature, I am pretty sure there was a Blaupunkt too.

Brigham · 26th Mar 2020, 4:42 pm

Normende had some sort of picture-in-picture, years back.

Stuart R · 26th Mar 2020, 8:00 pm

I got a bonus from work back in 2002 and decided to replace my long-in-the-tooth ex-rental Ferguson telly and future-proof myself with something with inbuilt Digital tuner.

I eventually went for a 28" widescreen CRT Sony Wega, but was very tempted by the similar-sized LG on display in Currys. Instead of the traditional Picture/Text/Mix facility, the LG did Full-screen Picture, Full-screen Text, or text and picture side-by-side.

Too long ago to remember the model number though.

Regards,

SR

Andy Doz · 27th Mar 2020, 5:13 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben

ITT/Nokia did a set with that feature, I am pretty sure there was a Blaupunkt too.

Those incredible ITT Digivision sets.

The Salora M, which shared a lot in common (chip set wise) with the Digivision, had it as well.

Richard_FM · 28th Mar 2020, 12:27 am

I think the Phillips widescreen set my brother used to have could display text alongside the picture.

hans · 28th Mar 2020, 1:12 am

I had a Loewe that various options for text, one of these was to have the text alongside the picture. That was an expensive 100 hz set.

toshiba tony · 28th Mar 2020, 3:38 am

Thanks all, I wasn't aware so many sets did this, Sharp introduced a chassis. The DA100, models were in sizes from 24-36 inch w\s. FW sets were w\s and GF's were flat, still w\s. We did very well with them, they replaced the horrible GS sets. When I posted my original query regarding which set it could have been I must have been having a bad moment. But thank you, pleasant finding out other sets did it too. Class D output stages were new to us then, soon got those tamed.

25th Mar 2020, 12:48 pm	#1
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 978	CRT with text Hello All, getting bored vegetating. Not a quiz, this is for my own satisfaction. Which manufacturer did a set that enabled you to watch text at the side of the normal picture as opposed to super imposing it over the picture. Been in the trade all my adult life but it's leaving me vacant. It was one of the last crt chassis they produced. All I remember is the manufacturer came and gave us a demo on how to repair the things, they replaced the optos in the psu, put one in the wrong way round and blew the psu. It could have been either Sharp, Toshiba, Sony or LG. I worked for them all.

25th Mar 2020, 12:52 pm	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CRT with text Is that TeleText?

25th Mar 2020, 1:19 pm	#3
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 978	Re: CRT with text Sorry, yes, Fast-Text

25th Mar 2020, 2:02 pm	#4
electronicskip Nonode Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gloucester, Glos. UK. Posts: 2,150	Re: CRT with text Diddnt Sanyo produce something like that within their PIP (Picture in Picture) set series? __________________ Oh I've had that for years dear!!

25th Mar 2020, 3:54 pm	#5
gallowfields Hexode Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Durham, County Durham, UK. Posts: 325	Re: CRT with text From memory I think Philips was the first to do this, not sure whether it was the A10 chassis or B4.

25th Mar 2020, 7:18 pm	#6
Maarten Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Haarlem, Netherlands Posts: 4,199	Re: CRT with text I'm sure more than one brand did this, but at least Philips. Possibly already in the GFL chassis mid to late 1990's but surely in the MG chassis series. Edit after reading last post above: In 100Hz chassis this is relatively simple, I'm not sure about 50Hz chassis but the painter chip in the A10 was reasonably powerfulfor its time. I'm also sure that Sony did this, so that might be the one you remember.

25th Mar 2020, 7:49 pm	#7
G6Tanuki Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 13,998	Re: CRT with text I remember the picture-in-picture thing: my parents went to a Suffolk holiday-cottage where the TV had this feature and they managed to enable it then couldn't work out how to turn it off! Of course phoning me for assistance turned out to not be that useful given that I couldn't see all the buttons available on the remote or the on-screen messages.

25th Mar 2020, 9:36 pm	#8
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,932	Re: CRT with text The painter chip in the A10 was horrific with all the odd ball faults it caused,the most common was switching off. __________________ G8JET BVWS Archivist and Member V.M.A.R.S

25th Mar 2020, 11:50 pm	#9
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,498	Re: CRT with text ITT/Nokia did a set with that feature, I am pretty sure there was a Blaupunkt too. __________________ Regards, Ben.

26th Mar 2020, 4:42 pm	#10
Brigham Octode Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Co. Durham, UK. Posts: 1,117	Re: CRT with text Normende had some sort of picture-in-picture, years back.

26th Mar 2020, 8:00 pm	#11
Stuart R Heptode Join Date: May 2011 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Hertfordshire, UK. Posts: 693	Re: CRT with text I got a bonus from work back in 2002 and decided to replace my long-in-the-tooth ex-rental Ferguson telly and future-proof myself with something with inbuilt Digital tuner. I eventually went for a 28" widescreen CRT Sony Wega, but was very tempted by the similar-sized LG on display in Currys. Instead of the traditional Picture/Text/Mix facility, the LG did Full-screen Picture, Full-screen Text, or text and picture side-by-side. Too long ago to remember the model number though. Regards, SR

28th Mar 2020, 12:27 am	#13
Richard_FM Nonode Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Stockport, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 2,002	Re: CRT with text I think the Phillips widescreen set my brother used to have could display text alongside the picture. __________________ Hello IT: Have you Tried Turning It Off & On Again?

28th Mar 2020, 1:12 am	#14
hans Heptode Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo, Norway. Posts: 632	Re: CRT with text I had a Loewe that various options for text, one of these was to have the text alongside the picture. That was an expensive 100 hz set.

28th Mar 2020, 3:38 am	#15
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 978	Re: CRT with text Thanks all, I wasn't aware so many sets did this, Sharp introduced a chassis. The DA100, models were in sizes from 24-36 inch w\s. FW sets were w\s and GF's were flat, still w\s. We did very well with them, they replaced the horrible GS sets. When I posted my original query regarding which set it could have been I must have been having a bad moment. But thank you, pleasant finding out other sets did it too. Class D output stages were new to us then, soon got those tamed.