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Old 5th Jan 2020, 10:36 am   #1
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Default Please, help identifying this unusual device! (polarised telegraph relay)

Good morning.

In my collection, I have an unusual device that was made in England. Not sure what this is. If anybody has an idea, I would love to know. Is this a transformer, a motor, or something else? Sending some photos.
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 11:20 am   #2
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

An interesting one! It does bear a similarity to a magnetic detector for sea mines. Does the contact move across in the presence of a magnetic field? I am intrigued to find out what S & M might refer to.
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 11:28 am   #3
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

I think it's some kind of polarised telegraph relay. M and S indicating Mark and Space.
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 11:30 am   #4
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

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I think it's some kind of polarised telegraph relay. M and S indicating Mark and Space.
Wow! Thank you! I was wondering about those letters. The unusual thing is that there is no model number or a manufacturer. Mst be a secret service device
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 11:32 am   #5
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I think it's some kind of polarised telegraph relay. M and S indicating Mark and Space.
****** - should have figured that one!
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Old 5th Jan 2020, 11:45 am   #6
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

Looks very much like a Creed:

https://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/406814

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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

Yes, I too reckon it's a bipolar relay - probably dating from pre-WWII

(I never came across one as old as that, I was much more familar with the later plug-in type in a rectangular greenish-grey aluminium case)
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

Yes, it is a polarised telegraph relay (often known as a Carpenter Relay) and, as already mentioned, probably made by Creed.

Some of them have Air Ministry markings and date from the WW2 era.
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

I have got a 1960s one that is much smaller.
About 40 years ago I opened it up to look inside.
It has a moving coil like a meter and when I tested it I was able to get it to switch with an LDR and no amplification.
It is in storage in a box at the bottom of a big stack.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 7:14 am   #10
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Super! Thank you very much to everybody for such an amazing job!!!!!
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 1:37 am   #11
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Default Re: Please, help identifying this unusual British electrical device! Transformer? Mot

I spotted the one I said about in post#9 and have started a new thread for it so that this thread can stay on topic.
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...71#post1208571
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