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Old 8th Sep 2023, 8:52 pm   #21
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I'm no expert Paul , just reiterating what another enthusiast told me a couple of years ago. Apparently this model is known as the kensitas set and thats what this was listed as in the Dec 22 royal wooton Bassett auction.
I'm aware of the little KB set, they turn up quite often.

In reply to hit and miss. It is possible that a partial back was fitted . I have a 1932 Zetavox with this arrangement.
Wouldn't be difficult to make a back from plywood, with appropriate shaped cutouts for ventilation.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 9:04 pm   #22
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Anyone got a battery model with a back?
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 9:14 pm   #23
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Kesitas Set Lee: racking my brains. Sounds familiar.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 9:18 pm   #24
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https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-set-427608538

This is a link to another battery set that sold on eBay a number of years ago...it has a back!

I'm sure it was Mike Barker, bvws auction agent that told me this model is known as the kensitas set.

Whatever it's called it must be one of the most striking radios ever produced.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 9:23 pm   #25
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Here is a link to a very old bvws bulletin that covers the restoration of the set I now own. Refers to it as the kensitas coupon set.

https://www.bvws.org.uk/publications...olume12number2
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Thanks Lee. “The wave change always gave trouble”. Removed.

Used to take radios to Gerald Wells Fridays afternoons to get them going back in the eighties.
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Yes,the original wave change switch has been removed and replaced with a modern wafer section. Doesn't have the same feel as an old switch but does the job.

Be interested to hear how the restoration of your set progresses.

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Old 8th Sep 2023, 10:16 pm   #28
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Some skip diving and dump shop for some old oak veneered plywood to match.
Bit of thinking outside the box. Need to do it justice though. Enjoy the search.
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After finding details of the Amplion (1932) company in the 1933 Broadcaster Trade Annual, I was browsing through legal cases in the 1934 edition and a point arising in one of those involved a woman customer with an unreliable Amplion Six, for which she was refusing to pay the full retail price in part because a Selfridges ad in the Daily Mail had informed her that Amplion had gone into liquidation. Could be an explanation there, then, for how it came about that some of their sets were distributed in an unusual way, possibly after being completed by a third party. Some sort of rescue seems to have been swiftly effected, as Amplion (1932) Ltd. features as an advertiser in the 1934 and 1935 issues of the Trade Annual, but only as a manufacturer of loudspeakers. A little later, of course, complete radios were again appearing with the Amplion brand.
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Plain back with a big hole in it. Bit towards the left. Got a bit of 12mm ply today that will do that. No Lower central knob (wave change?). All looks a bit random. Different from mine. Scale up the photo for size/position.
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Interesting chequered history Paul.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 10:57 pm   #32
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It is a truly super looking radio and I'm looking forward to following your restoration.

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that's one of those sets that will increase in value as art deco becomes more appreciated, I'm sure.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 11:17 pm   #34
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Regarding the controls ,on my mains set the top three knobs, going from left to right are - wave change, tuning and reaction. The bottom centre knob is volume and on/off switch but it pulls out to become a volume control for the gram input circuit...
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Very pretty set, how bad is the woodworm, can we have some pics?
It looks like it has a frame aerial, I can see two HF chokes, an RF transformer, an intervalve transformer that does not look original, and lots of missing/disconnected wiring. Not sure if Amplion made suitcase portables but if they did that could be the source of circuit information.
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This battery version seems to be constructed as a box within a box whereas the mains version is just one box.

Was it made that way to incorporate a frame aerial?

Are the loudspeaker, output transformer and baffle board original?

I thought 1932 was early for moving coil loudspeakers.
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I thought 1932 was early for moving coil loudspeakers.
No, that change happened quickly: by 1932 they were standard in all but the cheapest sets.
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 12:18 pm   #38
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I have two of the battery versions of this set, first one from Steve Harris has completely different styled chassis to the second (and different knob arrangement) than second, from ebay a long time ago.
The second looks the same as the one this post is about, see pictures.
I did restore it and get it working but don't seem to have made any notes on the details.
It has the one of the strange Multitone range of tone control transformers which Amplion used with these sets, I have acquired quite a few of these through the years but they always seem to have open circuit windings, so I may have bypassed this.
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What a wonderfully radio, it screams Art Deco with it's design. It must have seemed incredibly bold and modern in it's day. I would love to have one in my collection but as said before, an extremely rare set! It's great you've been able to save it despite it's issues.
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 10:23 pm   #40
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Thanks for all your replies.

The condition was to say the least distressed (pictures). However I put this down to the reason as to how I was fortunate enough to buy it. Every one else who’d seen it previously probably wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole! It spent its first night in mother in laws brick shed at the bottom of the garden!

I have today heat treated most of the panels both sides with a dry iron. Just enough heat to be too hot to touch without burning the wood. Cant see grubs and eggs surviving this but only time will tell. Will give a final dose of woodworm treatment.

Speaker in a bag looks original.

Noticed the three existing knobs’ holes have round metal cover plates whereas the centre bottom one doesn’t. So evidently never had a knob there. They just left a hole (pictures). The centre upper knob has a two knob function on the same spindle.

Gridiron: thanks for pictures. Internal configuration looks very similar. Nice picture of the shelf. Have you got a back? Can you let me know what the valves are please? Got that centre lower knob though. Strange mine hasn’t.
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