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Old 10th Aug 2018, 9:01 am   #21
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A Band 3 converter or a new set ... Take Your Pick!
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Granada started from Winter Hill in 1956, we had a Stirling converter on the top of the HMV TV. Granada covered Yorkshire from Emily Moor, not sure when Emily Moor started transmission but must have been a similar time.
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 12:44 pm   #23
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I do miss frame slip, line break up, motor ignition snow, aircraft flutter,
and non vertical verticals. The 3 meg bars too.

Not forgetting the trade test music each afternoon and a slight smell of ozone at the rear.

The TV picture has no character these days as it once had, methinks.
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I have been listening to test card music in the car this morning, OK I know, a bit sad.
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I do miss frame slip, line break up, motor ignition snow, aircraft flutter,
and non vertical verticals. The 3 meg bars too.
Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0Jd8fi4No

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TV is also a lot older than you'd think. Heinrich Hertz' experiments had resonant rings sparking across a gap when they received a signal. With light as the output, this was television! Admittedly of only one pixel, but you've gotta start somewhere. The size of his resonators put things in the UHF region as well.

So UHF TV came first.

JLB contributed the ideas of having more pixels, of organising them into a picture, of using a neon bulb as a more sensitive alternative to a spark gap, and of time sharing the same hardware amongst many pixels.

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Hilarious - thanks for posting; much like the first tele I built!
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I love it, though I doubt they are old enough to remember it. they missed out on the picture shrinking when the mains voltage dropped and the 'waving' when the supply frequency dropped.

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I've seen subtle, authentic looking hum-bars in video games, and their designers are usually still in nappies.
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For Heavens' sake, how could a CRT cathode produce a square dot at switch off?

I'll get me coat....

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Astigmatism?
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In reply to post #13, I would argue the very big push came when digital arrived. It was the excuse the more careful customer needed to change as, understandably, they didn't want all the trouble with digiboxes and so on. It was fortuitous for the industry that the flat panel TV was mature technology by that time in a similar way that the colour boom happened in the early Seventies.
Believe it or not I know some joe public who thought if you didn't convert your TV to use a set top box by the due date it was impossible to do it afterwards!.
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Old 12th Aug 2018, 11:01 am   #33
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Aside from the "buy new" factor, a surprising number of people believed that it was not possible to view digital TV on older sets at all and some dealers didn't exactly rush to disabuse them of that notion. Even the media often got it wrong as well. Making sure nobody HAD to buy new was a condition of the switch to Digital but of course it would have been easier just to plough ahead regardless. It's a long way from 1926 but arguably the move to Digital Broadcasting was almost as significant.

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