Long shot - cartridge identification? - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

stuie319 · 25th May 2020, 3:56 pm

Hello folks,

Hope all are well at this oddest of times.

As per title I have a little conundrum which I'm hoping someone may know the answer to - I have here a Garrard GA150 music centre circa 1975. The machine is in quite remarkable condition, and as far as I'm aware is completely original.

It needs a new stylus, which in itself shouldn't normally present a problem, all the ones for sale online look identical to the one in the machines instruction manual, and the same as any other example of this unit that I've seen pictures of. Except mine. Which is odd, for I've no reason to suspect that the cartridge has ever been replaced!

The deck installed is an SP25 Mk 5, I don't really want to replace a perfectly serviceable cart unnecessarily, the only problem being a worn cantilever on the stylus.

Does anybody recognise the type? The styalised 't' on the front looks vaguely familiar and for some reason I have 'Tenoral' in my mind, but could of course be miles off.

Images attached - The blue one is from the instruction book, the other is what's actually present

As usual thanks for reading, and any help gratefully received. I realise it's a long shot!

Regards,

Stu

Edward Huggins · 25th May 2020, 4:06 pm

Well that is the TENOREL logo on the face of the cartridge body. The stylus assembly just slides off, it's the white/cream pull off moulding. I think Mantra Audio sold replacements.
There were a small range of stylus types, but I think any replacement Conical type would be just fine in a Garrrad SP25.

Restoration73 · 25th May 2020, 4:12 pm

Tenorel was I believe a Netherlands brand.
https://www.musonic.co.uk/index.php?...ducts_id=23662

stuie319 · 25th May 2020, 4:51 pm

Hi Again,

Crikey, that was quick! And it looks like we have the answer. Perhaps if I'd spelt Tenorel correctly I'd have got there myself. I still find it odd that what appears to be a factory fit is so clearly different than the manual supplied with the machine but hey ho, I now know what I'm looking for!

Thanks again guys

Regards

Stu

vidjoman · 25th May 2020, 6:53 pm

I vaguely recall that Tenorel made a copy of the Goldring G800. You will have to examine the photos carefully or take out the cartridge and see if there are numbers on the back.

ben · 26th May 2020, 11:18 am

Judging from the shape of the cart body I would have said Goldring too.

Ted Kendall · 26th May 2020, 3:41 pm

Looks like a Tenorel 2001, which was indeed a loose equivalent to the G800. It was distributed by Condor over here ("the fastest bird in the business"..!) and made a decent replacement for the various nondescript Japanese units when styli were diffficult to get.

stuie319 · 26th May 2020, 5:30 pm

Hi Guys,

Other than the logo on the front of the cart there are no markings.
Visually the 2001D looks to be the most likely candidate and so one has been ordered. It wasn't expensive, and hopefully will fit.
I will report back when it arrives!

Thanks once again

Stu

25th May 2020, 3:56 pm	#1
stuie319 Pentode Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stockport, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 229	Long shot - cartridge identification? Hello folks, Hope all are well at this oddest of times. As per title I have a little conundrum which I'm hoping someone may know the answer to - I have here a Garrard GA150 music centre circa 1975. The machine is in quite remarkable condition, and as far as I'm aware is completely original. It needs a new stylus, which in itself shouldn't normally present a problem, all the ones for sale online look identical to the one in the machines instruction manual, and the same as any other example of this unit that I've seen pictures of. Except mine. Which is odd, for I've no reason to suspect that the cartridge has ever been replaced! The deck installed is an SP25 Mk 5, I don't really want to replace a perfectly serviceable cart unnecessarily, the only problem being a worn cantilever on the stylus. Does anybody recognise the type? The styalised 't' on the front looks vaguely familiar and for some reason I have 'Tenoral' in my mind, but could of course be miles off. Images attached - The blue one is from the instruction book, the other is what's actually present As usual thanks for reading, and any help gratefully received. I realise it's a long shot! Regards, Stu Attached Thumbnails

25th May 2020, 4:06 pm	#2
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,336	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? Well that is the TENOREL logo on the face of the cartridge body. The stylus assembly just slides off, it's the white/cream pull off moulding. I think Mantra Audio sold replacements. There were a small range of stylus types, but I think any replacement Conical type would be just fine in a Garrrad SP25. __________________ Edward.

25th May 2020, 4:12 pm	#3
Restoration73 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK. Posts: 2,801	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? Tenorel was I believe a Netherlands brand. https://www.musonic.co.uk/index.php?...ducts_id=23662

25th May 2020, 4:51 pm	#4
stuie319 Pentode Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stockport, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 229	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? Hi Again, Crikey, that was quick! And it looks like we have the answer. Perhaps if I'd spelt Tenorel correctly I'd have got there myself. I still find it odd that what appears to be a factory fit is so clearly different than the manual supplied with the machine but hey ho, I now know what I'm looking for! Thanks again guys Regards Stu

25th May 2020, 6:53 pm	#5
vidjoman Dekatron Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: East Sussex, UK. Posts: 3,326	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? I vaguely recall that Tenorel made a copy of the Goldring G800. You will have to examine the photos carefully or take out the cartridge and see if there are numbers on the back.

26th May 2020, 11:18 am	#6
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,498	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? Judging from the shape of the cart body I would have said Goldring too. __________________ Regards, Ben.

26th May 2020, 3:41 pm	#7
Ted Kendall Dekatron Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kington, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 3,675	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? Looks like a Tenorel 2001, which was indeed a loose equivalent to the G800. It was distributed by Condor over here ("the fastest bird in the business"..!) and made a decent replacement for the various nondescript Japanese units when styli were diffficult to get.

26th May 2020, 5:30 pm	#8
stuie319 Pentode Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stockport, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 229	Re: Long shot - cartridge identification? Hi Guys, Other than the logo on the front of the cart there are no markings. Visually the 2001D looks to be the most likely candidate and so one has been ordered. It wasn't expensive, and hopefully will fit. I will report back when it arrives! Thanks once again Stu