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Old 15th Jul 2021, 12:50 pm   #1
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Default Grundig/Philips AG1025 deck spindle

I'm making good progress restoring a Grundig Mandello radiogram for somebody who brought it into our Repair Cafe. The electronics are all sorted (usual caps replacement did the trick) and I'm now sorting out the deck.

It's a Grundig badged Philips AG1025, but sadly the spindle is missing! The owner's late Dad had formed a horrible plastic thing to keep the record in place, but I'm trying to track down an original if possible; (even a simple non-autochange one would do!)

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 5:30 pm   #2
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Default Re: Grundig/Philips AG1025 deck spindle

Surely the hollow socket that the automatic spindle sits stands proud of the turntable centre, and acts as the single-play spindle? It did on my Mandello.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 5:38 pm   #3
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Don't think so - see photo.....

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 7:57 pm   #4
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I don't know what that thing is, but it definitely shouldn't be there. If you remove it, you should see the socket for the centre spindle sticking up. Apart from the Mandello I had, I've seen and handled many of these decks, and never seen anything like this on one. I think this thing has been put on to accomodate 45s with the large centre hole.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 9:46 pm   #5
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Well there is a mat to go with it (in fact I'm just having a replacement made!) - see photo...

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 9:51 pm   #6
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And here's a photo from radiomuseum which looks very similar to mine!
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 5:44 am   #7
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Default Re: Grundig/Philips AG1025 deck spindle

i know what Barry meant, early Philips can indeed be used without any spindle as the spindle holder stands slightly proud of the mat. Not so on yours though.

Do you know anyone with a 3D printer? A single play spindle is SO easy to make. See the one i made for my own philips (printed white/cream to suit the deck's scheme). I bet mine would fit perfectly, unless Philips had different sized spindles across models... hmmm Philips... highly likely!

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 5:58 am   #8
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What is it about Radiograms with missing spindles? Nearly 50% of the Radiograms offered Online seem to have missing Centre Stacking Spindles. Was it becase access to the autochanger was not easy? And, BTW, most of these are being offered as, er, "fully functioning"....
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 7:16 am   #9
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Thanks Joe - good idea!!

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Thanks Joe - good idea!!

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Print the top part (that goes into the record) 0.5mm too big, then put the bottom part in a drill and reduce and polish the top part against some 400 wet and dry paper in your hand so it looks nice and smooth! easy and total cost 3 cents!
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What is it about Radiograms with missing spindles? Nearly 50% of the Radiograms offered Online seem to have missing Centre Stacking Spindles. Was it becase access to the autochanger was not easy? And, BTW, most of these are being offered as, er, "fully functioning"....
I can kinda understand the missing spindle (just) especially if it's meant to be swappable, but what I don't get is the number of portable Dansette type things that have no platter mats! I mean where do they go? they're not so old they're disintegrating, they just go missing? how and why? thrown around at parties? when the Dansette gets retired people say "I tell you what I'll keep that mat as a plant stand"? it's a mystery
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 5:47 pm   #12
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Thanks all - I don't have a 3D printer, so won’t be doing that...

Platter mats go very brittle and disintegrate - I’m getting a replacement....

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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 6:16 pm   #13
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I’m in possession of the same deck but the motor seems to be faulty. Any resources around that might help me nail the problem. Thanks
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