It seems National R-441B but different board - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

wwidbali · 29th Jun 2018, 10:16 am

I discover my childhood radio from the attic, forgot the model, but google hit found, it is a National R-441B. But the board of my old radio is different from the layout included in a schematic document of R-441B I found on the net. ( I put the layout next to the photo of board of of my radio)

In this forum I found my radio board is the same with Malc Scott's radio referring to this thread https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36162

Did anyone have the correct schematic for this radio?, Malc mentioned in the referring threads, he found the Schematics on R&TVs book 70-71, sadly I don't own R&TVs

Appreciate any help for the schematic

Cheers

WW

ukcol · 29th Jun 2018, 10:57 am

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Originally Posted by wwidbali

............ a schematic document of R-441B I found on the net.

You don't say where on the net you found the schematic but if it wasn't radiomuseum then this may help.

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/panaso...441b_r441.html

Radiomuseum do allow non-members to download schematics with restrictions.

wwidbali · 29th Jun 2018, 11:33 am

Sorry, the schematic I found was from the link of radiomuseum.org https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/panaso...441b_r441.html

But the board is different from the schematic from this website.

Cheers

ukcol · 29th Jun 2018, 12:17 pm

Whoops

I should have pointed you to this download first anyway (your £1.99 supports the running of this forum)

https://www.service-data.com/section.php/5308/1/r-441b

Herald1360 · 29th Jun 2018, 12:21 pm

Can overseas members still buy service data? ISTR some VAT problem a while back.

Station X · 29th Jun 2018, 1:07 pm

I believe that only applies to instant download sales to EU countries outside the UK.

https://www.service-data.com/page.php/euvat

wwidbali · 29th Jun 2018, 4:17 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcol

I should have pointed you to this download first anyway (your £1.99 supports the running of this forum)

https://www.service-data.com/section.php/5308/1/r-441b

Well, I was also suggested by Google that link, anyhow before I purchase it, anyone can confirm that the document I will buy is the correct one ? I mean , it is not the same with the schematic that I got from radiomuseum.org ?

Cheers

AC/HL · 29th Jun 2018, 7:57 pm

It's the Radio and TV Servicing data. It has the same circuit diagram and dial cord illustration, but no layout. These were Service Engineer's notes, rather than full manuals.

MALC SCOTT · 30th Jun 2018, 6:50 pm

PM Sent.

29th Jun 2018, 10:16 am	#1
wwidbali Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Kuta Selatan, Bali, Indonesia Posts: 3	It seems National R-441B but different board I discover my childhood radio from the attic, forgot the model, but google hit found, it is a National R-441B. But the board of my old radio is different from the layout included in a schematic document of R-441B I found on the net. ( I put the layout next to the photo of board of of my radio) In this forum I found my radio board is the same with Malc Scott's radio referring to this thread https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36162 Did anyone have the correct schematic for this radio?, Malc mentioned in the referring threads, he found the Schematics on R&TVs book 70-71, sadly I don't own R&TVs Appreciate any help for the schematic Cheers WW Attached Thumbnails

29th Jun 2018, 11:33 am	#3
wwidbali Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Kuta Selatan, Bali, Indonesia Posts: 3	Re: It seems National R-441B but different board Sorry, the schematic I found was from the link of radiomuseum.org https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/panaso...441b_r441.html But the board is different from the schematic from this website. Cheers

29th Jun 2018, 12:17 pm	#4
ukcol Rest in Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Harlaxton, Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 3,944	Re: It seems National R-441B but different board Whoops I should have pointed you to this download first anyway (your £1.99 supports the running of this forum) https://www.service-data.com/section.php/5308/1/r-441b

29th Jun 2018, 12:21 pm	#5
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,536	Re: It seems National R-441B but different board Can overseas members still buy service data? ISTR some VAT problem a while back. __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

29th Jun 2018, 1:07 pm	#6
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,289	Re: It seems National R-441B but different board I believe that only applies to instant download sales to EU countries outside the UK. https://www.service-data.com/page.php/euvat __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.

29th Jun 2018, 7:57 pm	#8
AC/HL Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heckmondwike, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 9,642	Re: It seems National R-441B but different board It's the Radio and TV Servicing data. It has the same circuit diagram and dial cord illustration, but no layout. These were Service Engineer's notes, rather than full manuals.

30th Jun 2018, 6:50 pm	#9
MALC SCOTT Octode Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Willington, County Durham, UK. Posts: 1,499	Re: It seems National R-441B but different board PM Sent. __________________ Malc Scott