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Old 21st Feb 2018, 7:01 am   #101
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Default 1960's TV set in "Back in time for tea"

Did anyone see the BBC2 programme "Back in time for tea" last night? The family's TV set appeared to be a real working set. I think it was a Ferguson (Flight?) the one with the controls on the top.
Usually on this type of program the picture on the period TV set is either not seen or is an obvious superimposed one.
This set however had a somewhat milky slightly over bright picture and on a fleeting shot I am sure I could see the line structure of the picture suggesting it really was 405 lines..
Did anyone else see this or was it wishful thinking on my part?
I watched the program at my parents house I don't know if they have recorded it I will check later when I visit and if so I will see if I can get any pictures of the set. It looked in mint condition as new in fact.

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Old 21st Feb 2018, 10:15 am   #102
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No, I saw it too. As it happens next week's Radio Times has this to say about the series:

"We work with a fantastic man who buys old TVs, radios, gramaphones and lovingly restores and rewires them in his workshop so you can plug an mp3 or iPod into it. He sourced everything for us. You can run an old black and white TV programme on a DVD plugged into that TV so it feels like you're actually watching television from that era".

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Old 21st Feb 2018, 11:06 am   #103
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Something in there I don't like the sound of. Maybe it's just me.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 12:27 pm   #104
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Default Re: Vintage Radios, TVs etc in films and on TV (not anachronisms)

STV in White City used to supply sets years ago. I am afraid I used to do them for him (George Appter) if I have spelt the surname correctly.

Many fitted with Steepletone chassis!
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 3:40 pm   #105
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However they did what they had to do for a TV programme aimed at the general public it worked. I thought I caught a glimpse of line structure too.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 3:51 pm   #106
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AFAIK the TVs are supplied by the Vintage TV & Wireless Company of Norwich. The Ferguson on last night's episode of 'back in time for tea' is on the rental stock list in the 'fully practical' section (ie in working order).
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 9:42 pm   #107
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Yep that's the set I saw. Presumably then restored to working order and operated with a standards converter. If they had swapped the insides for a more modern chassis the screen shape would surely give it away.

How about this set then? Does anyone recognise it?
Seen in a ropy boarding house in an old episode of The two Ronnies when they were investigating the strange case of The Phantom Raspberry Blower of Old London Town...
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 9:35 am   #108
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Maybe I missed something, despite recently seeing the 'Phantom Raspberry blower' episodes on Yesterday Channel, but as the 'Phantom' stories were set in Victorian times, why would any TV set be featured?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 9:49 am   #109
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There's also a thread here about films where valves can be seen:
http://ax84.com/bbs/dm.php?thread=422771
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 8:50 pm   #110
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Maybe I missed something, despite recently seeing the 'Phantom Raspberry blower' episodes on Yesterday Channel, but as the 'Phantom' stories were set in Victorian times, why would any TV set be featured?
Maybe I got it wrong I was only half watching the program so it was probably some other sketch during the programme. The phantom bit may have been a different sketch. I wasn't paying a lot of attention until I saw the TV set...
Sorry for any confusion..
However anyone know what set it was? My best guess would be some sort of EMI offering ?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 10:34 pm   #111
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I've got something similar scanned into my pic album

edit : HMV937 etc?

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...pictureid=3571

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...pictureid=3573
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Old 8th Mar 2018, 1:52 pm   #112
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Afternoon all.

I supplied the TVs for Back in Time for Tea. It was a great program to be involved with.
All the sets were restored and working, original sets, using the original electronics. The first set used in the 1950's was a Defiant.
The early sets were fed with video from DVD via a standards converter, and the later sets are fed using a standard RF modulator.
The family did mention the annoying 405 line whistle and on some parts of the show, you can actually hear the set whistling in the background.

The radios are also restored sets, with audio fed in from a MP3 player.


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Old 11th Mar 2018, 4:58 pm   #113
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Hi Rob, encouraged by your post I went in search of something I was involved with 31 years, ago. I never saw the completed programme at the time, this is the first time I have seen it
https://youtu.be/PGtVjy2NyYc?t=72
I supplied the set you see to the location, a hotel room where it was filmed (16mm).
The set was a contemporary 16 inch ITT, nothing whatsoever remarkable, and I would have forgotten about it but for a couple of things.

The racing footage was not the race featured in the episode, it was a real race and it was important that the horses, and jockeys colours were not identifiable. Pulling focus on the camera did not give a convincing effect, so I was asked to defocus the TV.

Unfortunately that model did not have a great range of adjustment on the focus pot and the producer asked what more I could do.

So, the set as you see it had the back removed and a chain of 10Mohm resistors added to the top of the focus pot until they were happy.
All the time I was messing about with the focus chain and my soldering iron, the scantily dressed actress you see was in front of me.
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 11:09 pm   #114
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Default Roberts on Coronation Street

Any one noticed the Roberts in the Hairdressers on coronation street?

Canít quite see the top, but looks like a R23 judging by the buttons.
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 11:38 pm   #115
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There are also a couple of Robert's radios in EastEnders!
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 9:25 pm   #116
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Hi
Watched the Repair Shop on BBC2 Today and there was a nice Red Roberts R900 on a bench in the background
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 8:25 pm   #117
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GEC radiogram on The Repair Shop on BBC 2 this evening. The only work covered was repairs to the motor and the tuning drive, and tripping the electrics the first time it was tried. He had a copy of the Trader sheet which he says he found online.

I would imagine a lot more work was done than we were shown. Many of the jobs featured are clearly many hours of painstaking work.

The programme briefly covers three restorations in half an hour so obviously not much time for detail. Some of it is about the stories behind the items and what they mean to the owners, along with some brief history of the items.

This radiogram was returned to a delighted owner with a 78 RPM copy of The Laughing Policeman, which she used to listen to with her sister (who is no longer with us) as a child.
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 8:28 pm   #118
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Very nice. My grandfather had the radio version of this and I spent many happy hours listening to 40 metre AM amateur stations on it.
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 8:44 pm   #119
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The outcome with the GEC radiogram was heartening- but, as so often, I found the lead-up a little odd. I almost wondered if the breaker-tripping bit was staged, a sort of "well, folks, this old electrical stuff can be a bit iffy" kind of thing. On the other hand, there was none of the "only the experienced and knowledgeable should attempt these sort of repairs" warning, which would have been both reasonable and expected in the current climate as vintage radios are still quite commonplace to encounter in many attics etc. as keepsakes.

It was a shame we didn't get just a few seconds of chassis-fettling, with accompanying overview as to how old components need to be checked/replaced for reliabilty/performance/safety. No great detail needed, just convey to the audience that it's not the glib work of a moment to get half-century-plus electronics back in order, and "if you find something like this, please don't just plug it in". At least, I hope that "that cap" was changed!
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Old 16th Mar 2018, 8:54 pm   #120
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I watched the prog and wanted to scream that it was a radiogram NOT a gramophone every time the voice over called it that,when it was first mentioned I expected a wind up jobby. I also noticed that the p u was replaced with what looked like a BSR mono cartridge so I don't think they fettled the original p u.
I have to say that I hate that damn record I have never liked it even as a kid
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