UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > General Vintage Technology > General Vintage Technology Discussions

Notices

General Vintage Technology Discussions For general discussions about vintage radio and other vintage electronics etc.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 2nd Jan 2020, 3:15 pm   #1
mole42uk
Nonode
 
mole42uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Resolven, Wales; and Bristol, England
Posts: 2,614
Default How to store the spare one?

This must be a common issue for many of us … when we have a piece of kit that works well and is indispensable we often have a spare one as well, probably not as good as the primary one, but probably working and absolutely essential for spare parts.

How do we store that spare one? Unfortunately, I have several pieces of test gear for which I have a spare and storing them is becoming a problem. Do I keep them complete or strip the major parts and discard the parts unlikely to be required?

Should I just get rid of the spare and take my chances? How many multimeters do I really need? How many signal generators, how many oscilloscopes - bearing in mind that my Marconi 2955 does well for much of those tests.... I daren’t count the multimeters, I probably have at least a dozen.

I have just realised that being on holiday from work isn’t a good idea…
__________________
Richard

Index:
recursive loop: see recursive loop
mole42uk is offline  
Old 2nd Jan 2020, 3:22 pm   #2
ex seismic
Heptode
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Tonbridge, Kent, UK.
Posts: 687
Default Re: How to store the spare one?

It is a lot easier to store a complete unit than a collection of bits. And you bit collection will never have the bracket/widget/special screw that will be in the complete unit.
ex seismic is offline  
Old 2nd Jan 2020, 3:30 pm   #3
G6Tanuki
Dekatron
 
G6Tanuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Wiltshire, UK.
Posts: 14,007
Default Re: How to store the spare one?

My problem with keeping a "spare" to gralloch for parts to keep your main one of anything working is that the fault in a part of your main-one is also likely to be found in the spare...

[I'm thinking here of things like decayed/seized coil-cores, 'green spot' in coils/transformers, worn tuning-drive gearboxes etc]

At least radios, test-gear etc is relatively compact: I know someone who's been trying for half a decade to do the 'make one good one out of three bad ones' trick - meaning he has three similarly-dead Alvis 432 armoured-personnel-carriers in his barn!
G6Tanuki is offline  
Old 2nd Jan 2020, 4:09 pm   #4
avocollector
Heptode
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wellington, New Zealand.
Posts: 653
Default Re: How to store the spare one?

I'm a great fan of click clack boxes for the smaller items (multimeters etcv) and rolling organisers for the larger. Not only can you stack them but you can label them, keep and index on the computer and the shed you store it in does not have to be wonderfully waterporoof etc. How I store a lot of my stuff.
avocollector is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2020, 12:31 am   #5
knobtwiddler
Octode
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: London, UK.
Posts: 1,051
Default Re: How to store the spare one?

A question that pops into my mind from time to time is, what's the least stressful way to turn something (particularly an item that consumes a bit of power, I.e. analogue scope) back on after a lay off in storage? If you know the PSU is entirely linear or unregulated, then ramping up power with a variac is a wise idea. But if it uses switching PSUs will there be any benefit? It will simply do nothing until it hits a certain voltage, e.g. 80v and spring into life. An idea would be to isolate the PSU from other circuitry and test each block in isolation, but that can be a lot of work, and near-impossible in some cases with many rails and HT circuits.
knobtwiddler is offline  
Old 4th Jan 2020, 9:53 pm   #6
David Simpson
Nonode
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Aberdeen, UK.
Posts: 2,858
Default Re: How to store the spare one?

Its no secret that I've been morphing items of test equipment for a number of years. A DC Valve Tester & several HV, MV & LV DC PSU's have been the result.
Spare parts for AVO's range of VCM/Testers can be of rocking horse manure values.
The "Crystal" range of large stackable plastic boxes are ideal for a variety of radio spares & valves. With judicious use of sizes a fair bit of space can be saved.
If you are in touch with several Forum/BVWS folk in your area, why not think about pooling some of your spares.

Regards, David
David Simpson is online now  
Old 8th Jan 2020, 7:27 pm   #7
SiriusHardware
Dekatron
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK.
Posts: 11,586
Default Re: How to store the spare one?

Quote:
Originally Posted by knobtwiddler View Post
But if it uses switching PSUs will there be any benefit? It will simply do nothing until it hits a certain voltage, e.g. 80v and spring into life.
That is rather the problem. If you manage to start a 240V SMPSU on 80V it will draw a huge amount of current, far more than when running at 240V, in order to compensate for the lack of volts in an effort to try to maintain the required watts into the load.

As a general rule, slowly ramping up the voltage input to an SMPSU is quite a bad idea. This is also why SMPSUs often die during power brown-outs, unless they have an under-voltage protection circuit to shut them off if the input voltage gets too low.
SiriusHardware is online now  
Closed Thread




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 1:08 pm.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.