Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Rollhard · 5th Sep 2016, 7:24 pm

Hi. Im totaly new to record players and im looking for help.
Ok so i have got my hands on a Dansette major Deluxe 21 for pennies because it was sold as not working. After opening it up and having a look i dont think the Transistor that has come with it belongs to the record player. Can anyone with more experience let me know if it is in fact the right one and if not where can i get a replacement.

Thanks

paulsherwin · 5th Sep 2016, 7:39 pm

Transistor? Do you mean transformer? Your pic shows a transformer of some sort, but it isn't connected to anything. There is no amplifier at all, either valve or transistor. What do you have in mind for it?

parlourtw73vs · 5th Sep 2016, 7:43 pm

After looking at the 2nd. pic I'm sure I can see a valve lurking in the background but if that's connected to empty air as well I can't discern.

TonyDuell · 5th Sep 2016, 7:43 pm

There seems to be a valve in the corner of the second photo...

paulsherwin · 5th Sep 2016, 7:48 pm

Yes, you're right, there's certainly a valve there, though the condition and status of the amp is anyone's guess.

Nuvistor · 5th Sep 2016, 7:48 pm

Could you post some photos of the inside of the player, were the valves are etc. As Paul asked what have you in mind?
Frank

Edward Huggins · 6th Sep 2016, 11:42 am

If there is a valve, it will be just the one EL84. If the 2 control knobs are still at the front, there must be something else inside besides fresh air? Edward

Edward Huggins · 11th Sep 2016, 9:13 am

No more has been heard from the OP on this.
Quite a common occurence WRT Portable Record Player enquiries wherein there is no "quick fix".
Edward

dave walsh · 11th Sep 2016, 9:58 am

You can say that again Edward. In fact we keep on doing just that. It only seems to apply to one type of vintage item though. Funny that

Perhaps a protocol requiring more of an ongoing response from the OP would help?
It's a difficult one.

Dave W

Station X · 11th Sep 2016, 10:38 am

The OP posted at 7:24 PM on 5 September. He then returned at 10:11 PM that evening, presumably to read the replies to his post. It's quite likely that he read a post, since deleted, which was very unhelpful and unwelcoming. Perhaps that's why he decided not to return? I guess we'll never know now.

HamishBoxer · 11th Sep 2016, 12:58 pm

Oh dear,well everyone gets things wrong and typos ,I certainly do.

Welcome back if indeed you are reading this,plenty of good solid advice available.

Edward Huggins · 11th Sep 2016, 3:56 pm

I can't see anything that was in any way off-putting in the replies we sent. Sometimes it's essential that we Post back asking for more info, essential to help the OP further - lest we all end up making assumptions, something I am often guilty of! Edward

Station X · 11th Sep 2016, 5:12 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Huggins

I can't see anything that was in any way off-putting in the replies we sent. Edward

That's because the offending posts have been deleted, but possibly not before they were seen by the OP. Posting comments such as "We haven't heard back from the OP" less than a day after he first posted is unhelpful. Many people have jobs to go to and can't spend all day surfing the forums.

dave walsh · 11th Sep 2016, 10:24 pm

Thanks for that very helpful info Graham. Moderators can see more of what's going on and of course have the [uneviable] responsibility for trying to keep things in balance-"a difficult one" as I said earlier. There seems to be a lot of non returners though and they can't all have been put off by a random comment [if indeed they are] plus other explanations might apply-we don't know as you say because they are absent.

I'm more concerned about people who do stay but sometimes seem oblivious to cautionary advice. This is perhaps unfair to those trying to help them out never mind being somewhat worrying. I kept a list of NSA's [never seen again] at one point because it seemed such a frequent [and impolite] occurrence but I forgot that there might be a difference between NSA and.... actually returned quietly. Times are changing. I was on the Forum for a long time before posting. I don't think I would even have thought of seeking direct help in the first place in the way that people now start off...never mind leaving without comment! That didn't seem to be the way things worked then. Maybe I'm a lot more old fashioned than I imagine but I have always thought that the Forum's caring, considerate attitude is it's greatest strength

Cheers,
Dave W

Nukeybrown · 12th Sep 2016, 12:10 am

I'm a silent returner for numerous reasons which if explained may cause offence even though they are not person specific.

dave walsh · 12th Sep 2016, 11:40 am

That's very honest NB. I think most of us do the same from time to time for the same sort of reasons, another question of balance. By definition though, with 100+ posts so far, you'll never be a silent returner [good expression] who THEN becomes NSA. You don't qualify for that-thank goodness

Dave

5th Sep 2016, 7:24 pm	#1
Rollhard Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Edinburgh, UK. Posts: 1	Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help Hi. Im totaly new to record players and im looking for help. Ok so i have got my hands on a Dansette major Deluxe 21 for pennies because it was sold as not working. After opening it up and having a look i dont think the Transistor that has come with it belongs to the record player. Can anyone with more experience let me know if it is in fact the right one and if not where can i get a replacement. Thanks Attached Thumbnails

5th Sep 2016, 7:39 pm	#2
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,943	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help Transistor? Do you mean transformer? Your pic shows a transformer of some sort, but it isn't connected to anything. There is no amplifier at all, either valve or transistor. What do you have in mind for it?

5th Sep 2016, 7:43 pm	#3
parlourtw73vs Pentode Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bolton, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 186	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help After looking at the 2nd. pic I'm sure I can see a valve lurking in the background but if that's connected to empty air as well I can't discern.

5th Sep 2016, 7:43 pm	#4
TonyDuell Dekatron Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Biggin Hill, London, UK. Posts: 5,208	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help There seems to be a valve in the corner of the second photo...

5th Sep 2016, 7:48 pm	#5
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,943	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help Yes, you're right, there's certainly a valve there, though the condition and status of the amp is anyone's guess.

5th Sep 2016, 7:48 pm	#6
Nuvistor Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 9,433	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help Could you post some photos of the inside of the player, were the valves are etc. As Paul asked what have you in mind? Frank

6th Sep 2016, 11:42 am	#7
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,327	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help If there is a valve, it will be just the one EL84. If the 2 control knobs are still at the front, there must be something else inside besides fresh air? Edward

11th Sep 2016, 9:13 am	#8
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,327	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help No more has been heard from the OP on this. Quite a common occurence WRT Portable Record Player enquiries wherein there is no "quick fix". Edward

11th Sep 2016, 9:58 am	#9
dave walsh Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ramsbottom (Nr Bury) Lancs or Bexhill (Nr Hastings) Sussex. Posts: 5,817	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help You can say that again Edward. In fact we keep on doing just that. It only seems to apply to one type of vintage item though. Funny that Perhaps a protocol requiring more of an ongoing response from the OP would help? It's a difficult one. Dave W

11th Sep 2016, 10:38 am	#10
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,288	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help The OP posted at 7:24 PM on 5 September. He then returned at 10:11 PM that evening, presumably to read the replies to his post. It's quite likely that he read a post, since deleted, which was very unhelpful and unwelcoming. Perhaps that's why he decided not to return? I guess we'll never know now. __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.

11th Sep 2016, 12:58 pm	#11
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,932	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help Oh dear,well everyone gets things wrong and typos ,I certainly do. Welcome back if indeed you are reading this,plenty of good solid advice available. __________________ G8JET BVWS Archivist and Member V.M.A.R.S

11th Sep 2016, 3:56 pm	#12
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,327	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help I can't see anything that was in any way off-putting in the replies we sent. Sometimes it's essential that we Post back asking for more info, essential to help the OP further - lest we all end up making assumptions, something I am often guilty of! Edward

11th Sep 2016, 10:24 pm	#14
dave walsh Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ramsbottom (Nr Bury) Lancs or Bexhill (Nr Hastings) Sussex. Posts: 5,817	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help Thanks for that very helpful info Graham. Moderators can see more of what's going on and of course have the [uneviable] responsibility for trying to keep things in balance-"a difficult one" as I said earlier. There seems to be a lot of non returners though and they can't all have been put off by a random comment [if indeed they are] plus other explanations might apply-we don't know as you say because they are absent. I'm more concerned about people who do stay but sometimes seem oblivious to cautionary advice. This is perhaps unfair to those trying to help them out never mind being somewhat worrying. I kept a list of NSA's [never seen again] at one point because it seemed such a frequent [and impolite] occurrence but I forgot that there might be a difference between NSA and.... actually returned quietly. Times are changing. I was on the Forum for a long time before posting. I don't think I would even have thought of seeking direct help in the first place in the way that people now start off...never mind leaving without comment! That didn't seem to be the way things worked then. Maybe I'm a lot more old fashioned than I imagine but I have always thought that the Forum's caring, considerate attitude is it's greatest strength Cheers, Dave W Last edited by dave walsh; 11th Sep 2016 at 10:36 pm.

12th Sep 2016, 12:10 am	#15
Nukeybrown Heptode Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 504	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help I'm a silent returner for numerous reasons which if explained may cause offence even though they are not person specific.

12th Sep 2016, 11:40 am	#16
dave walsh Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ramsbottom (Nr Bury) Lancs or Bexhill (Nr Hastings) Sussex. Posts: 5,817	Re: Dansette major Deluxe 21 Help That's very honest NB. I think most of us do the same from time to time for the same sort of reasons, another question of balance. By definition though, with 100+ posts so far, you'll never be a silent returner [good expression] who THEN becomes NSA. You don't qualify for that-thank goodness Dave