UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Vintage Radio (domestic)

Notices

Vintage Radio (domestic) Domestic vintage radio (wireless) receivers only.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 3rd Jun 2023, 9:57 pm   #1
Barnsley Bill
Diode
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire, Uk.
Posts: 4
Default Columbia model C302 aka Marconi T32A.

Hello there, first time poster.

I've got an old Columbia Model C302 that I've had in the garage for a number of years and I'm looking to repair. I'm struggling to understand how to thread the cord that goes around the wheel and what cord to buy to refresh the old cord with new.

Would anyone have any idea how I might fix this or a wiring diagram explaining how to repair? Its the cord that controls the tuning on the radio.

Please see images attached. Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks Bill
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3513.jpg
Views:	133
Size:	85.9 KB
ID:	279156   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3514.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	114.9 KB
ID:	279157   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3515.jpg
Views:	121
Size:	111.9 KB
ID:	279158   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3516.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	106.9 KB
ID:	279159   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3517.jpg
Views:	121
Size:	113.9 KB
ID:	279160  

Barnsley Bill is offline  
Old 3rd Jun 2023, 10:03 pm   #2
vinrads
Dekatron
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK.
Posts: 3,760
Default Re: Columbia model c302

Hi Bill you need to remove the chassis first ,then we may have an idea how to re string it , Mick.
vinrads is offline  
Old 3rd Jun 2023, 10:55 pm   #3
Techman
Dekatron
 
Techman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincolnshire, UK.
Posts: 5,000
Default Re: Columbia model c302

I've worked on the radiogram version of this chassis a few years ago, so can give you some first hand advice.

An interesting observation for those who haven't yet noticed is that the chassis is actually stamped out for much larger and earlier, probably octal based valves, but it's actually fitted with adapters for more modern valves - take care when and if you pull any of those valves that you don't bust the glass pips on the bottom side of the valves.

The one that I worked on had a totally burnt out mains transformer (the large thing on the right of your picture) caused by being plugged in and run with the original grid coupling (that) capacitor still fitted. So what I'm saying is that the chassis will need more serious work than just replacing that drive cord if it's to run reliably without clouds of smoke and a horrible smell and a very expensive transformer rewind.

I told the chap at the time that if he could find a good replacement transformer, then I'd fit it for him. He sourced one off ebay that was nearly the same, but had a higher voltage HT winding and a lower voltage rectifier heater winding. It was also physically slightly different, so the frame had to be swapped over from the old transformer. It was a bit of a performance and if it wasn't for the fact that he was a mate then I wouldn't have taken the job on. He's still got it and it's still running 12 years on as far as I know - we also had to replace the old Plessey record deck and then modify the replacement to make it fit and work.

There may be service information for a similar chassis to the one you've got that may show the drive cord fitting if you have a look through the index of the link highlighted in red at the top right of this web page.
Techman is offline  
Old 4th Jun 2023, 11:00 am   #4
Cobaltblue
Moderator
 
Cobaltblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Exeter, Devon and Poole, Dorset UK.
Posts: 6,865
Default Re: Columbia model c302

Electronically this seems to be very similar to the Marconi T32DA.

However I suspect the stringing is similar if not the same as the Marconi T29 whose stringing drawing is attached.

Cheers

Mike T
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot 2023-06-04 105456.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	64.1 KB
ID:	279161  
__________________
Invisible airwaves crackle with life or at least they used to
Mike T BVWS member.
www.cossor.co.uk
Cobaltblue is offline  
Old 4th Jun 2023, 12:23 pm   #5
Stuart R
Heptode
 
Stuart R's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Hertfordshire, UK.
Posts: 693
Default Re: Columbia model c302

I've sure I've used the T32DA sheet as guidance for the same Gram version that Techman was working on.

Here's one photo that shows what you're up against, pulleys hidden at the front of the chassis that 'bend' the tuning cord round by 90 degrees.

If you purchase the service sheet download, that may give you some useful guidance, but if it's not exactly the same model, have a good look around the radio before you begin dismantling it. There maybe subtle differences; do the control knobs simply pull off, or do they have grub screws? Worth double checking before you break them!!

My photo includes a shot of a hastily replaced capacitor (or two), one of them being the Grid Coupling one that everyone here will suggest is replaced before you consider powering up the set for any great period of time. Leave an electrically leaky old one in place and it can cause expensive damage.

Good luck.

SR
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1010058.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	138.0 KB
ID:	279167  
Stuart R is offline  
Old 4th Jun 2023, 6:27 pm   #6
FERNSEH
Dekatron
 
FERNSEH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK.
Posts: 7,444
Default Re: Columbia model C302 aka Marconi T32A.

Marconi T32A all right. Was the chassis made by Plessey or EMI?

DFWB.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20230604_182042.jpg
Views:	66
Size:	87.5 KB
ID:	279185  
FERNSEH is offline  
Old 4th Jun 2023, 7:34 pm   #7
Techman
Dekatron
 
Techman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincolnshire, UK.
Posts: 5,000
Default Re: Columbia model C302 aka Marconi T32A.

I mentioned that the original deck in the Columbia radiogram version that I worked on was a Plessey. However, I tend to refer to all these oddball decks as Plessey types, when I've just remembered that it was the HMV 45000 78rpm autochanger, so going on that I think that the chassis is likely to be made by EMI too.
Techman is offline  
Old 10th Jun 2023, 11:51 am   #8
Barnsley Bill
Diode
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire, Uk.
Posts: 4
Default Re: Columbia model C302 aka Marconi T32A.

Thank you for all your replies everyone, much appreciated. Could I ask what fishing line I would use? Is it Nylon fishing line, or corded line what fly fishermen use? The numbers are a little confusing, is there a strength of line I should use e.g 4lb etc?
Barnsley Bill is offline  
Old 10th Jun 2023, 8:28 pm   #9
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,288
Default Re: Columbia model C302 aka Marconi T32A.

I use what's known as backing line.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is offline  
Old 24th Jun 2023, 11:21 am   #10
Barnsley Bill
Diode
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire, Uk.
Posts: 4
Default Re: Columbia model C302 aka Marconi T32A.

Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Thanks everyone for your support
Barnsley Bill is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 2:31 am.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.