|
Components and Circuits For discussions about component types, alternatives and availability, circuit configurations and modifications etc. Discussions here should be of a general nature and not about specific sets. |
|
Thread Tools |
2nd Mar 2024, 2:09 pm | #1 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
I got this across the output transformer but have no idea of resistance. Anyone have any idea? The body is red the ends are violet and gold cannot find a dot.
Cheers Chris |
2nd Mar 2024, 2:29 pm | #2 |
Dekatron
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Oxfordshire, UK.
Posts: 4,935
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Tricky, so red and violet tell us the number 27 but we need the spot on the body to tell us where the decimal place needs to be. What would be your best guess as to the colour the spot was?
Could you trace the connection back a valve, perhaps the anode of the output valve? B
__________________
Saturn V had 6 million pounds of fuel. It would take thirty thousand strong men to lift it an inch. |
2nd Mar 2024, 2:38 pm | #3 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Had another look and the spot appears to be black.
|
2nd Mar 2024, 2:38 pm | #4 |
Heptode
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Swaffham, Norfolk, UK.
Posts: 587
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
2.7k. Red violet red.
Edit* Won't be black as it would signify 27 ohms |
2nd Mar 2024, 2:43 pm | #5 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Cheers guys
|
2nd Mar 2024, 2:53 pm | #6 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
I'm a bit puzzled as to why a resistor would be connected across an output transformer. A tone correction capacitor would be more likely.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |
2nd Mar 2024, 2:57 pm | #7 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Well I thought that as on the schematic it has a 0.02uf cap but this has a resistor. For a murphy AD94.
|
2nd Mar 2024, 3:02 pm | #8 | |
Dekatron
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Oxfordshire, UK.
Posts: 4,935
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Quote:
(written before seeing the last post, but anyway, that looks like a resistor to me). B
__________________
Saturn V had 6 million pounds of fuel. It would take thirty thousand strong men to lift it an inch. |
|
2nd Mar 2024, 3:16 pm | #9 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
According to the manufacturer's service sheet the tone correction capacitor is C31 which is mounted UNDER the chassis. The only resistor with initial digits 27 is R15 270k in series with the volume control wiper. This is mounted near, but not on the output transformer. I think the OP needs to check where this resistor is actually connected to. The fact he's asked for the value suggests it's open circuit or out of tolerance?
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |
2nd Mar 2024, 3:23 pm | #10 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Something's not right here. The service sheets show the output transformer as being mounted on the chassis, not on the speaker frame. Looks like the set may have been modified.
Coincidentally the resistance of the transformer's primary winding is shown as 270R. Could the primary be open circuit and someone has tried to simulate the DC conditions for testing purposes?
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |
2nd Mar 2024, 3:39 pm | #11 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Further investigation needed
|
2nd Mar 2024, 3:50 pm | #12 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
There is one end connected via wire which goes to a transformer whilst the other end is just soldered to a blank tag on the other transformer.
Last edited by Luxman1050; 2nd Mar 2024 at 4:01 pm. Reason: Error in sentence |
2nd Mar 2024, 4:04 pm | #13 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
If the resistor goes to a "blank" tag with no connection to the transformer windings then it can't have any function. Is there a hole/s in the chassis where the output transformer should be?
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |
2nd Mar 2024, 4:19 pm | #14 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
I think the first picture in post #12 is the original output transformer. This is an AC/DC set with no mains transformer.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |
2nd Mar 2024, 4:44 pm | #15 |
Banned
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Konongo, Ghana
Posts: 516
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
I think the original loudspeaker has a field excitation coil (besides the usual voice coil).
In the service documentation coil L13 is not to be found on the bottom and top view of the chassis. In the list of components it says that is can be found at "Square L.S.F.". This could stand for "Loudspeaker frame". The value of 900 for coil L13 could represent the dc-resistance of this coil. This does not explain why the mystery resistor is connected parallel to L13. Perhaps someone wanted B+ for the valves to be a bit higher? Addition: Or perhaps the loudspeaker is not the original one and L13 was changed for a choke, which went open at some point? So, the mystery resistor is a substitute for this choke? Or the replacement choke needed extra resistance in series with it so as to come closer to the value of 900 for coil L13? Last edited by Robert Gribnau; 2nd Mar 2024 at 4:51 pm. Reason: Addition |
2nd Mar 2024, 5:32 pm | #16 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
I agree. What we see in the picture in post #1 is not the output transformer T1, it's the smoothing choke L13.
Some wire tracing/continuity testing is needed.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |
2nd Mar 2024, 5:40 pm | #17 |
Triode
Join Date: Jan 2024
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire, UK.
Posts: 23
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Hi,
Out on Interest what is the Current Resistance Thanks Mark |
2nd Mar 2024, 6:42 pm | #18 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
Wow lots of info to take in there. I have not had a good look at yet. But appears to need lots of work done including the majority of wiring as that has perished. The speaker appears to be original although it is badly damaged. Makes you wonder how it got damaged in the first place unless removed at some point! No mains transformer. Not been able to get a reading off the resistor.
So it looks like many moons ago bits have been changed? I wouldn't know. Thanks for the input. Chris |
2nd Mar 2024, 6:44 pm | #19 |
Octode
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Margate, Kent, UK.
Posts: 1,728
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
There's no room on the chasis for the transformer.
|
2nd Mar 2024, 7:06 pm | #20 |
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,289
|
Re: Can anyone tell me the resistance of this resistor?
That's because it's already there. I mistakenly thought the inductor shown in post #1 was the output transformer.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron. |