Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

brianc · 23rd Oct 2011, 2:08 pm

Hi all
Some time ago, I lent my Pethers' decoder to someone on this forum for research purposes. It was on the understanding that it was sent, when finished with, to Bradford. I was at Bradford yesterday and inquired as to whether they had received the unit yet - the answer was "don't think so"!). Unfortunately, I can't remember to whom I lent it and the PMs associated with it's collection etc. have long since been erased. So I wonder whether anything has happened with it and when it will go to Bradford - and of course, who's got it at the moment.

Mike Phelan · 24th Oct 2011, 8:58 am

Brian

You've a PM.

dominicbeesley · 24th Oct 2011, 12:30 pm

Hi Brian, it was me!

I can take it along to Bradford now if you like but haven't got very far with tracing the circuit yet...I was saving it as a winter project when the nights draw in.

I've been slowly trying to work out the circuit (which is quite tricky on the densely populated bread-board). And trying to figure out the likely intended signal for it, then my plan was to try and make a matching encoder...to test it against, though I'd be intending to conduct a good number of tests before applying power!

Like I say if you'd like it delivered to the museum sooner then I can take it whenever you wish.

Dom

brianc · 26th Oct 2011, 7:26 pm

Take as long as you like Dom. I had forgotten who had borrowed it and I didn't want it to be "shelved". I now know where it is and am quite satisfied that it will get to Bradford - eventually

!

The Pethers system was re-invented as NIR so if you can synthesize that, you may be able to get it going. The input will be 1V @ 75ohm, of course.

dominicbeesley · 27th Oct 2011, 11:36 am

Hi Brian,

I'm looking forward to this but for me it is quite a big challenge - I really want to understand the decoder before I do anything with it. Like I said is quite a challenge as the board is quite denely populated and there's a good number of wound components on there that will take a bit of figuring out...at the moment most of my workspace is taken up with my 405 line NTSC project and a broken Pye VT4!

Cheers

Dom

John Caswell · 27th Oct 2011, 1:36 pm

Hi all,
Is Brian Pethers still around and if so does anyone have any contact details for him? I lost touch with him some years ago.
PM accordingly please

John Caswell

Apologies, just seen in some other threads that Brian sadly passed away. Another of the extremely clever Cox development team in the 70-80s of which pppenguin was also one. Jeffery also mentioned Mike Christian who also sadly is no longer with us.

John Caswell (ex Cox Chief of Test 73-81)

ppppenguin · 30th Oct 2011, 6:04 pm

Fortunately Mike Cox is still alive and well. Still the incurable experimenter too.

John Caswell · 31st Oct 2011, 9:19 am

Was he ever anything else? One of the great places to work.

John Caswell

brianc · 31st Oct 2011, 9:51 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppppenguin

Fortunately Mike Cox is still alive and well. Still the incurable experimenter too.

How true Jeffrey. He has recently developed his own 3D TV system and modified a quad video head to improve sig-noise ratio for archive purposes! You can't keep a good man down.
I remember seeing block diagrams of an Arab TV station, all labelled in arabic, except for a small rectangular block labelled "Cox Box" (a trade name for a bit of kit Michael Cox Electronics manufactured) in english.

23rd Oct 2011, 2:08 pm	#1
brianc Rest in Peace Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Burghfield, Reading, Berkshire, UK, Posts: 1,055	Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Hi all Some time ago, I lent my Pethers' decoder to someone on this forum for research purposes. It was on the understanding that it was sent, when finished with, to Bradford. I was at Bradford yesterday and inquired as to whether they had received the unit yet - the answer was "don't think so"!). Unfortunately, I can't remember to whom I lent it and the PMs associated with it's collection etc. have long since been erased. So I wonder whether anything has happened with it and when it will go to Bradford - and of course, who's got it at the moment.

24th Oct 2011, 8:58 am	#2
Mike Phelan Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Near Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 4,609	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Brian You've a PM. __________________ Mike.

24th Oct 2011, 12:30 pm	#3
dominicbeesley Octode Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,885	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Hi Brian, it was me! I can take it along to Bradford now if you like but haven't got very far with tracing the circuit yet...I was saving it as a winter project when the nights draw in. I've been slowly trying to work out the circuit (which is quite tricky on the densely populated bread-board). And trying to figure out the likely intended signal for it, then my plan was to try and make a matching encoder...to test it against, though I'd be intending to conduct a good number of tests before applying power! Like I say if you'd like it delivered to the museum sooner then I can take it whenever you wish. Dom

26th Oct 2011, 7:26 pm	#4
brianc Rest in Peace Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Burghfield, Reading, Berkshire, UK, Posts: 1,055	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Take as long as you like Dom. I had forgotten who had borrowed it and I didn't want it to be "shelved". I now know where it is and am quite satisfied that it will get to Bradford - eventually ! The Pethers system was re-invented as NIR so if you can synthesize that, you may be able to get it going. The input will be 1V @ 75ohm, of course. Last edited by brianc; 26th Oct 2011 at 7:37 pm. Reason: adding a bit

27th Oct 2011, 11:36 am	#5
dominicbeesley Octode Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,885	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Hi Brian, I'm looking forward to this but for me it is quite a big challenge - I really want to understand the decoder before I do anything with it. Like I said is quite a challenge as the board is quite denely populated and there's a good number of wound components on there that will take a bit of figuring out...at the moment most of my workspace is taken up with my 405 line NTSC project and a broken Pye VT4! Cheers Dom

27th Oct 2011, 1:36 pm	#6
John Caswell Hexode Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 437	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Hi all, Is Brian Pethers still around and if so does anyone have any contact details for him? I lost touch with him some years ago. PM accordingly please John Caswell Apologies, just seen in some other threads that Brian sadly passed away. Another of the extremely clever Cox development team in the 70-80s of which pppenguin was also one. Jeffery also mentioned Mike Christian who also sadly is no longer with us. John Caswell (ex Cox Chief of Test 73-81) Last edited by John Caswell; 27th Oct 2011 at 1:47 pm. Reason: Additional comments

30th Oct 2011, 6:04 pm	#7
ppppenguin Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North London, UK. Posts: 6,168	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Fortunately Mike Cox is still alive and well. Still the incurable experimenter too.

31st Oct 2011, 9:19 am	#8
John Caswell Hexode Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 437	Re: Brian Pethers' Colour System Decoder Was he ever anything else? One of the great places to work. John Caswell