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31st Jul 2021, 10:46 pm | #1 |
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Perdio TVs
There have been a couple of threads recently about Perdio TVs including at least one oddball.
I have included below some Perdio television job numbers copied verbatim from my old (undated) typewritten list I have omitted some items like UHF amplifiers and power supplies since the job numbers were used for internal costing purposes so included in-house test equipment. A couple of my comments in braces. 34 - 9" Portable Television {This would be the Mk1 which was exhibited at the Radio Show but not sold as far as I know} 45 - 9" Pallion Port. T.V. {The well known Mk2} 66 - 8 1/2" 405/625 Home Market 67 - 8 1/2" 525 Line Export U.S.A {Suspect this was the design for US bases in Arctic - not sold} 68 - 19" 405/625 switched Home Market 69 - 8 1/2" Monitor 405/625 (Video input) 70 - 14" Monitor 405/625 (Video input) 71 - 8 1/2" 625 Line Export 77 - 8 1/2" Portarama for 405 to 405/625 switches Covbersion Kit 78 - 8 1/2" Monitor 625 (Video input) Imhof 'Minilok' Cabinet 79 - 8 1/2" Monitor 405 (Video input) in Portarama Case 80 - Ditto 625 Ditto 81 - 19" Monitor 405/625 switched (video input) 138 - Export 625 VHF T.V. 170 11" T.V. Transistor 171 11" TV Hybrid {The last job in my list} I have the original job 66 (405/625) circuit diagrams and have photographed them to pdf but will not post them here since the Portarama 3 Trader sheet is available on site. I downloaded this sheet (I only have the radio DVDs) and did a rough check to confirm the same. The only difference I spotted was an extra OC81 (instead of diode) and preset RV5 for frame sync and some voltages.
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1st Aug 2021, 9:33 am | #2 |
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Re: Perdio TVs
How unusual and rewarding to see a hand drawn schematic. Having spent hours on a drawing board, I take my hat off to the draftsman or person who manages to replicate the resistor, inductor etc. time and time again with their personal "trade mark" just adding that "little extra" to the document.
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1st Aug 2021, 10:13 am | #3 |
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Re: Perdio TVs
Hello George.
Thank you for posting this list and information, it’s very interesting. I guess you’ve seen my thread on here of my 11” MK3 ‘ish portable. I also have a standard 8 1/2” MK3. The 11” set incorporates the additional preset (RV5), but the 8 1/2” doesn’t. The trader sheet for the MK3, which seems the only diagram I can find, has no voltage references on it apart from indicating a 100 Volt rail and a 350 Volt rail generated by the line output stage. I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of your circuit diagram, if at all possible. I’m guessing from the information you have that you were an employee of Perdio at some point? Cheers. SimonT.
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Re: Perdio TVs
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The pcb drawing was easier since most of the components were round or rectangular. The trackside was mostly freehand.
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Started as the TV lab assistant in 1961 between the Mk1 and MkII. Moved up to Sunderland to help start up the TV line and remained there doing various stuff until closure.
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1st Aug 2021, 6:31 pm | #6 |
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Re: Perdio TVs
Poor you and I am from Sunderland
Please post up the hand drawn circuit diagrams up as pdfs. as I don't suppose Paul would mind too much just as long as they are not the same as what is offered by the forum download service or his excellent DVDs
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3rd Aug 2021, 11:43 am | #7 |
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Re: Perdio TVs
George (buggies) asked here and I agree that it is different and useful data that should be shared.
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=182458 |
3rd Aug 2021, 1:32 pm | #8 |
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Re: Perdio TVs
Thank you Paul,
If you think they are worth proper scanning after reviewing then I could post the originals to you. There are eleven, fairly empty, A3 sheets, probably to make it easier for troubleshooting on the line. I have photographed them using a mobile phone and tried to improve the contrast slightly with Ifanview. I know there is no UHF tuner circuit but I hope all the rest is there - as that is all I have. 14MB available from my dropbox (hopefully):- https://www.dropbox.com/s/8d0eu2zjex...job66.pdf?dl=0 Trivia... Although the sheet title block says "Perdio London", the drafting was actually done in the Sunderland drawing office. There was also a radio development lab with two engineers but as far as I remember, no new products were actually designed there, just post-production work.
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I have an A3 scanner and it would be good to get proper scans (although your mobile phone ones are very good). I'll PM you with my address.
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3rd Aug 2021, 6:43 pm | #10 |
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A big thankyou Buggies for sharing these
Thanks also go to Paul for allowing them to be shared here
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3rd Aug 2021, 7:25 pm | #11 |
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That’s extremely helpful.
Thank you George and Paul. SimonT.
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4th Aug 2021, 12:01 am | #12 |
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Re: Perdio TVs
The general rule and approach is that any service data that offers new, different or improved information is welcome. These original circuit diagrams with voltages definitely do that (especially as the Trader sheet for this set is quite poor).
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4th Aug 2021, 6:38 pm | #13 | |
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Your information is very interesting. I, like many here I suspect, would treasure any insight into the way things were at Perdio whilst you were there. Anecdotes, people, designers (especially the TV development side), we would love to hear about. It’s so important to gather as much information of these companies from employees who were there at the time, this information is gold dust, and will one day be lost if not recorded. I can understand you not wanting to sit at a keyboard and plod away for hours typing, so if I can help in any way, please let me know. SimonT.
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5th Aug 2021, 7:15 pm | #14 |
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Hi Simon,
I have had a couple of attempts in the last couple of years but found I tended to ramble off topic, since most of my memories are about what I was doing. Also, memory is not too good for peoples' surnames. I might have another attempt in the coming months and stick it on a waffle blog somewhere - perhaps I could then extract any relevant bits and post in the forum before I fall off the edge of the age survey post.
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Hi George.
It would be brilliant if you could! Perhaps just talking into a tape recorder, dictaphone or voice recorder would be easier? I would be happy to transcribe the audio for you. Cheers. Simon.
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9th Aug 2021, 6:29 pm | #16 |
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Work in progress.
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10th Aug 2021, 7:03 pm | #17 |
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That sounds great George.
Thank you!
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10th Aug 2021, 7:39 pm | #18 |
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And a thanks from me as well George, stories from the actual time bring history alive and are a joy to read!
I kept on and on to my father to write down his war experiences, he finally started but sadly only wrote three pages before he died. Since he was Polish and forced into slave neighbour and then the Kreigsmarine he had some amazing stories to tell. What’s more he was never bitter about what happened to him. Peter |