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Old 5th Mar 2021, 10:44 am   #1
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hi folks

can anyone identify this vintage lamp's original purpose? The bulb is a MES 4.5V. I'm guessing it's 1940's vintage.

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Old 5th Mar 2021, 11:01 am   #2
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It looks like a push bike lamp.
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Old 5th Mar 2021, 11:24 am   #3
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What with the swivels isn't it a bit over designed for that?
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Old 5th Mar 2021, 11:48 am   #4
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LUCIFER. I think it may be a Swiss Bicycle lamp. J.
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I believe the brand is 'Lucifer' which does suggest a bike light. 4.5v could either be dry cells or dynamo, but probably the latter..?

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Old 5th Mar 2021, 12:11 pm   #6
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The swivels will give you various mounting options. My first thought was also bike. It would be unusual for the battery pack to be remote on a lamp like this so I'd agree more likely dynamo.
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Definitely a bike light, I'd say.

Most of the ones we see here are Sturmey Archer. Even some of the dynamo ones had a separate battery pack too, so that the lights didn't go out when stationary.

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Old 5th Mar 2021, 12:23 pm   #8
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Thanks guys, unanimous it's a bike lamp then. I can't imagine that being very bright on a Swiss mountain road though

Nick, yes I had a Sturmey Archer dynamo front and rear lamps on my bike in the 1960's, looking back it was pretty dim unless you pedalled really fast
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Old 5th Mar 2021, 6:17 pm   #9
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Cycle dynamo lights are commonly 6 volts, not 4.5 volt, but of course the bulb fitted might not be the originally intended type.

Cycle dynamos are designed to supply a roughly constant current at any reasonable road speed. 300ma and 500ma were common ratings, but others existed.
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My first proper bicycle in about 1972 had a hub dynamo (should have been called an alternator, that what it was) along with a battery tube for 3 D cells. On top of that was a bridge rectifier and a single diode to prevent back charging of the battery. And yes, it was to provide light when stopped, the law was changed (in the UK) quite a while later. BTW the rectifier and diode where selenium.

I think the item is a splendid thing.
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