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Old Today, 11:37 am   #341
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I guess they don't have to pay teams of scriptwriters, continuity people, hire costumes etc., and bad weather isn't going to affect shooting schedules like it can with drama programmes that involve exterior locations.
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If they'd faked any experts with C-list actors, Equity would have insisted on a cast list being whizzed past viewer's eyes

I think they are real enough and all their skills and failings are real. It's what they're being directed to do that seems fake.

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They all have precisely the same goal in mind. To give their target audience what they want. Those that get a second series are successful. Those that don't, aren't.

Ergo, they are all equally successful. Cherry pick the format(s) that you enjoy and ignore the rest.
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I haven't waded through the many pages re this thread, but I've seen plenty enough knocking this programme. I don't see it that way at all. It's a programme about restoring old objects √, it's interesting √, It's somewhat sentimental and just 'nice' √, it beats watching crass reality stuff √. The fact that it doesn't do everything 'properly' or does this or that 'wrong' doesn't really matter to me. It has to be presented with a degree of swagger and commercialism to keep fringe people and the wider public interested. If you want a cold, clinical guide to restoration there's lots of stuff on Youtube, though don't expect it to necessarily be any more accurate! The Repair Shop isn't a guide on how to restore anything in detail, it's 'interesting' entertainment. I like it, there's lots of far worse stuff on the TV to grumble about!
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"We need a cliff-hanger on that backgammon set!"
I like that I believe the term used in TV is 'jeopardy'. It's such a relief to me to find programs made without it (and the accompanying schmaltzy music) that when I put the telly on, I'm often restricted to BBC 4.
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I'm often restricted to BBC 4.
Me too (though I could do without the utterly cringeworthy TOTP repeats). Having said that BBC4 ain't what it used to be. I watch a lot less.

Some of these programmes might make it onto mainstream TV with Eastenders and the like cancelled so some good might come out of this crisis!
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Thank you, stevehertz, for a good summary.
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Trouble is, for Forum folk & the fraternity of radio restoration folk in general, the TV watching public will see a couple of radio repair duffers on The Repair Shop and we'll all be tarred with the same brush. The art restoring lady does exceptional work, as does the horologist guy, the ceramics lady, and so on. So for broken radios, why didn't the producers acquire the services of genuine Vintage Radio Repair & Restoration professional ?
Talking of professionalism, I've a cousin out in the USA whose retired husband has restored an MG TF(I'm deeply envious). He tells me that the American TV car restoration programs "Fantom Works" & "Chasing Classic Cars" are the bees knees. As I've seen myself, every nut & bolt is genuine new galvanised or stainless steel, and the engineering work exceptional. But their vintage car fraternity are appalled at UK car restoration TV programs we are lumbered with. Despite a great number of bespoke engineering enterprises, particularly in the midlands - the quality of the presenters & the reliance on the pathos of the background stories let us down.
I do like "The Goblin Works" though, and that tall lassie is gorgeous !

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Trouble is, for Forum folk & the fraternity of radio restoration folk in general, the TV watching public will see a couple of radio repair duffers on The Repair Shop and we'll all be tarred with the same brush. The art restoring lady does exceptional work, as does the horologist guy, the ceramics lady, and so on. So for broken radios, why didn't the producers acquire the services of genuine Vintage Radio Repair & Restoration professional ?
Talking of professionalism, I've a cousin out in the USA whose retired husband has restored an MG TF(I'm deeply envious). He tells me that the American TV car restoration programs "Fantom Works" & "Chasing Classic Cars" are the bees knees. As I've seen myself, every nut & bolt is genuine new galvanised or stainless steel, and the engineering work exceptional. But their vintage car fraternity are appalled at UK car restoration TV programs we are lumbered with. Despite a great number of bespoke engineering enterprises, particularly in the midlands - the quality of the presenters & the reliance on the pathos of the background stories let us down.
I do like "The Goblin Works" though, and that tall lassie is gorgeous !

Regards, David.
Yes, that's exactly how it is, specialist restorers will always knock TV programmes that tackle a subject in a more entertaining, light hearted way. That simply exposes 'our' lack of understanding of the raison d'Ítre of TV programme makers who, in order to make money (it's their job, not a hobby) are compelled to make programmes that appeal to a wider audience than just dyed in the wool, serious restorers. The US is a different thing. They do things differently and always on a grander scale. And maybe even a niche, specialist orientated restoration programme in the US still entices enough viewers to make it profitable, it's such a huge country.
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It's now obligatory to have a clown, i suppose to widen the audience to include more 'divs'. I do learn things watching TRS, and this it what makes it appeal to me.

Fran Blanche has issued a new YT video that is much more our sort of thing, featuring a heath-robinson pseudo-digital alpha-numeric display module by IEE called a Bina-View.
a filament lamp and some solenoids at the rear, and a series of unique chequer-pierced plates at the front. These were selectively manipulated by a tiny amount to project the desired number, letter or character on the diffuser screen at the front. I'm not quite sure what they were thinking, but to modern eyes it looks like the work of someone unhinged- they certainly could have been once they had finished making a working prototype!

Once you see it you'll fully understand why it's inherently unreliable.

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