TV programme "Back in time for Christmas"

[dseymo1]

Presumably most of these programmes are VT (or digital) recordings, rather than film, so it's fairly simple to genlock the sets - admittedly a little more non-standard for the 405 line sets, which can only be field locked.
I appreciate that it's not always so simple, and have long been fascinated by an odd artifact seen on the 'Strike it Lucky' quiz show (for another thread, perhaps).

[McMurdo]

I've noticed on this and the 'dinner' series how it's a mix of real pictures where the TV just happens to be in shot, and superimposed where the tv programme is the subject of the shot. Our forum tv owner will no doubt expand on the programming arrangements! I have some old 18fps cine film which catches our G8 at christmas and it has a rolling black bar. When BBC1's Casualty first started, any live PC monitors in shot would show a jagged look if the camera was panned. Later series used backlit slides in prop monitors. I'm sure it's a subject in itself!

[regentone001]

I watched these programs too and was surprised at the fibreglass standard lamp used in the 1960's house I remember selling them in the mid 70's and was the what looked like a BUSH tv more of a 70's set? I can remember selling sets very similar to that one too under the BUSH, Murphy and Defiant brands,yes I worked for the CO-OP. Posh folk were reluctant to buy Defiant because they were "cheap" even though they were exactly the same set just badged differently

[paulsherwin]

The set dressing for the 60s episode was mostly from the end of the decade. 10 years is a long time in technology.

[G6Tanuki]

Originally Posted by regentone001

Posh folk were reluctant to buy Defiant because they were "cheap" even though they were exactly the same set just badged differently

Similarly, some people wouldn't have a "Baird"-branded Radio Rentals TV or video-recorder because it showed they were renting rather than owning. Even though they were living in a council-house. . . In the 1980s the Granada rental-chain's house-brand was "Finlandia" and everyone knew that meant you rented rather than owned.

Odd how perceptions change with time.

[ntscuser]

Have only just caught up with this programme so the 'seasonal' aspect was completely lost on me.

It does seem odd that they chose a tiny Sony to represent family viewing in a large open-plan living room in the 1970s. I would have thought a 22" push-through set was far more typical of the period.

[ekcopyephilips]

Hi all

There is a new version of the programme 'back in time for the weekend'.

Last week there was VT from a film in a TV factory, mid 60s, couldnt work out the sets being made.

Last night was the 70's so some more VT of shop windows of the time and there was a display of an early 70s TV shop with a Pye coulour (205) in the window.

All very exciting for me, but probably very boring for everyone else.

Cheers

Mike

[Welsh Anorak]

One understandable mistake often made is that if, say, a programme is set in 1965 then everything will need to be from that date i.e.brand new. Of course the TV would have probably been from the Fifties as would the car, radio, cooker and so on. Nowadays if an item of technology is more than a few years old it's looked on with disdain by those who know!
Designers and directors have a lot to do with things chosen - doubtless the TV22 and the Sony KV1300 being iconic designs look the part more than say a VT4 or a Thorn 1500 would, though the latter might be more appropriate.
Re post \25 - amazing how the Baird TVs and video recorders we sold second hand in the Eighties mysteriously sported Ferguson badges when we'd finished refurbishing them....
Glyn

[mark pirate]

There is a new version of the programme 'back in time for the weekend'.

This has been a bit different, this time the family did not have a TV in the 50's.
In 1960 they finally got a TV, a rather nice Philips TG1700U. I think the picture was added afterwards
I had to laugh when later in the decade it was showing a colour programme on Origami!

They finally got a colour telly in last night's episode, although I could not identify it due to the makers name being covered....

Mark

[Thyristor]

A really nice series, I've watched and enjoyed all of them so far, although I preferred the other family.
I noticed they had a Roberts RM50 in their 70s 'lounge' and a nice touch was the colour tv being delivered by their uncle, who was a manager at Currys in the 70s.

[vidjoman]

Originally Posted by Thyristor

a nice touch was the colour tv being delivered by their uncle, who was a manager at Currys in the 70s.

Pity he was trying to hurt his back. They didn't tell him to carry it with the tube face towards him. Seen lots of back problems caused by this and several dropped sets damaged beyond economic repair.

[hamid_1]

I've also been watching and enjoying the "Back in Time for the Weekend" series so far (didn't see the Christmas one).

There were a few minor mistakes, as pointed out in the Radio Times, in the '50s episode, Daisy plays a record "Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley on her father's radiogram. But the disc was the "Ace Of Hearts" reissue, which came out in 1961 ...

In the '60s episode, their black and white TV miraculously displayed a colour picture (the programme about Origami). Actually this happens a lot these days - TV shows and music videos often show colour images on old monochrome TVs with rotary tuners. Few people have used a black and white TV in the last 30 years, and most younger people will have never seen one, so it's easy to forget they ever existed.

In last night's show (repeated this coming Saturday on BBC2) the family start the 1970s with the same black and white TV that they had in the '60s. Then they get a credit card and make their first purchase on it - a new colour TV! A relative of theirs, who worked at Currys in the 1970s, delivers and installs their new set. Great - but the TV actually says "GRANADA COLOUR" so it couldn't have come from Currys - and I expect it would have been rented, not bought.

Otherwise it seems fairly authentic. The colour TV looks just like this one http://www.radios-tv.co.uk/1970-hmv-2703/ - a BRC 3000 from 1970. The production company must have gone to some trouble to source a lot of working restored vintage items - they've even provided some vintage clothing for the family!

[Hunts smoothing bomb]

Did anyone spot the KB CVC1 shown on some period VT during the 70's program advertising the electronic tennis game?

Cheers

[dave walsh]

This new version was better than I expected in many respects with some interesting technical inserts. The most authentic part of this sort of program is quite often the family that they select, who are usually so unimaginative and unquestioning that they portray the period attitudes very accurately! I suppose that the production team find this much easier to get right than the technology which will be, largely, a mystery to them and more significant in it's overall look than it's provenance-especially with endless opportunities to get things wrong.
Dave W

[Restoration73]

The "TV Factory" film was of the Thorn plant, the sets shown were the 900/950 chassis.
So, 1964-1968.

[ntscuser]

Can anyone identify the model?

[dazzlevision]

Originally Posted by ntscuser

Can anyone identify the model?

The first chassis is the 960 16" transportable version of the second chassis, which is the Thorn 950.

[wireless_john]

That's interesting. There was a television factory about half a mile from where I live in Gosport. When I first came here it was called Ultra and then went on to be Thorn-EMI.

They had an open day once and we went for a visit and watched them making Ferguson televisions. Sadly, long gone now. The office buildings are still visible from the road (A32) but have been renovated and covered in solar panels. The rest of the site is an industrial estate called Fareham Reach.

Although I don't know any personally, many people living around here were employed there at one time and even they must be getting on a bit now.

John

[ntscuser]

Originally Posted by dazzlevision

The first chassis is the 960 16" transportable version of the second chassis, which is the Thorn 950.

Thanks