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Old 16th Jan 2009, 5:07 pm   #1
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Hello i have just been given an old microwave modules 144/100 amp, (144 MHz) The problem is that it has a high input swr,the transistor in this is a sd1477, Could it be that it has been over driven and the matching input has been damaged?
Also the output is down to 40 watts!

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Hello i have just been given an old microwave modules 144/100 amp, (144 MHz)
Erm, 144 Mhz is a VHF frequency, not microwave...
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Old 16th Jan 2009, 7:40 pm   #3
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"Microwave Modules" is the name of a UK company who made two metre and 70 centimetre convertors and other stuff for use at VHF and UHF. It may be a misnomer, but that's what the company was called.
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Old 16th Jan 2009, 7:45 pm   #4
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"Microwave Modules" is the name of a UK company who made ...stuff for use at VHF and UHF.
Thanks Graham, how interesting. It wasn't clear from the OP that this was the name of a company (at least, it wasn't clear to me. )
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Old 16th Jan 2009, 8:16 pm   #5
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Hi Garry,

I have one of these or very similar, somewhere I have the circuit that came with it when new. If It's of any help, and I can find it, I'd be more than happy to send you a copy.

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Old 17th Jan 2009, 12:08 pm   #6
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Thanks chris for your help, i was able to find a copy on the net. After donig so tests on it i have found that the main rf transistor is damaged! Thats a shame, must of been over driven.... or some one has turned up the bias to much.
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I seem to remember that RF power transistors can have several junctions in parallel. Presumably they do not always fail simultaneously. We're more used to semiconductors either working or not aren't we.
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I remember the original Microwave Modules gear well, and very good they were too! Got many of us G8's up onto 70 and 23, and the ATV module has surely stood the test of time!

I too would guess that it's been badly overdriven. The original was intended for a max of 1 watt of input. I.E. 500mW in equals 50 Watt max out. I seem to remember later versions (but not under the original MM company) that were intended for the popular 2M transceivers of the 1980's. Certainly there was one version for the FT290 which took 2 Watts in for 80 out - and I dread to think what would happen if you drove this model with the 25W TX's also available at that time!

Maybe worth checking exactly what it's specs really are, and then decide whether it's worth spending the money on it to revive it and integrate it into your system.
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