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26th Oct 2021, 10:39 am | #21 | |
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Re: Apollo 11 1969 1" open reel video tapes
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The 'A' format was considered a broadcast standard although not really taking off in the UK. Certainly Anglia television and the London facility house Molinaire had 'A' format machines that were hastily converted to 'C' format when that format was agreed between Ampex and Sony. There was not much difference between the two standards. From what the pictures show these look knackered with a lot of oxide shedding. I would act with extreme caution as in extreme with a capital 'E'. By all means play the first few seconds to see what's on them, but if you can quickly confirm they contain what you think these contain then STOP immediately and contact the BBC. They will have the deep pockets necessary to have these tapes restored to best condition before they are played - and even then the tape may play only once before becoming unplayable due to oxide shedding. Please don't risk it. |
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26th Oct 2021, 12:10 pm | #22 | |
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26th Oct 2021, 12:57 pm | #23 |
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Re: Apollo 11 1969 1" open reel video tapes
There's an email address for contacting the BBC Archives department at the bottom of this web page.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/bbc-ar...d-lost/z4nkvk7 Not sure how deep their pockets are these days. I suppose if sourced within the Netherlands, there's a chance these could be BBC off-air recordings by someone with an interest in DX TV. I heard too that a few Ampex C-format machines had started out as A-format ones. SR |
26th Oct 2021, 1:07 pm | #24 |
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Re: Apollo 11 1969 1" open reel video tapes
The OP has said that the tapes were sourced from the US, so an off-air BBC recording is unlikely, though not impossible.
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26th Oct 2021, 3:02 pm | #25 |
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Oops - sorry Paul, I did scroll up and down the posts, saw the US date format discussed but completely missed the mention of the US origin.
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26th Oct 2021, 3:32 pm | #26 | |
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Worth a shot. I'd be happy if it ends up being Apollo footage, lost broadcasts would be a huge plus of course. |
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26th Oct 2021, 3:35 pm | #27 | ||
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I have not seen any oxide shed from any of the 3 tapes, nor does it appear to stick or hang on when unspooling. I suppose they should be "baked" as a precaution, but I am afraid this can damage the tapes if unnecessary? I read that baking can weaken the magnetic signal on the tape. I would prefer to not do anything to the tapes if not proven necessary by playing a few seconds and observing. |
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26th Oct 2021, 5:59 pm | #28 |
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Re: Apollo 11 1969 1" open reel video tapes
I started a post on the 12 Oct 2009 regarding some Sony 1/2 tapes I'd recorded as the Moon walk took place in 1969.
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=46301 I was subsequently contacted by Kaleidoscope who'd seen the thread and they arranged collection of the tapes. Sometime later I had a mail to say that the footage contained some of the James Burke commentary something that was thought lost forever. Denis
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26th Oct 2021, 8:48 pm | #29 |
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Interesting read Denis, always great to recover lost footage of any kind.
Under what kind of terms did you hand over the tapes? |
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26th Oct 2021, 9:24 pm | #31 | |
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18th Feb 2022, 9:14 pm | #32 |
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Re: Apollo 11 1969 1" open reel video tapes
Found someone an hour driving from here that has a type C machine.
I have been told by DCVideo that a type A tape will have its audio track aligned with the cue track on type C. Hoping to get a short piece of each tape played soon. This will allow me to verify the contents on the tape by audio. Then I will know if the labels hold true and I can work on shipping to DCVideo. Tomorrow is the big day! very exciting. |
18th Feb 2022, 9:22 pm | #33 |
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19th Feb 2022, 9:05 pm | #34 |
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Scanning head detail of Michaels' type C machine... with the "Landing" tape threaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3G1zG6RLc |
20th Feb 2022, 9:36 pm | #35 |
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Good luck! Keep us informed.
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21st Feb 2022, 5:32 pm | #36 | |
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