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Old 5th Jun 2016, 9:02 pm   #1
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Hi,
Found this little item today for a couple of euros. It's a wirewound resistor inside a perforated metal cylinder with Bakelite end caps. It was used to run a small 110 volts appliance from 220 volts mains when this became the standard supply in France.
The only mark reads: 735.R. and the actual resistance is 720 ohms. No indication as to current rating.
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Won't the current rating be V/R ie 110/735 or about 150mA?
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Old 5th Jun 2016, 9:50 pm   #3
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Default Re: Old resistance adaptor plug.

Which in turn means the appliance was rated (110)²/735 = 16W
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Default Re: Old resistance adaptor plug.

I'm frequently "impressed" with what was blithely accepted in the past, and this is an intriguing addition to the list! Presumably, one could get a whole range of resistances to suit legacy 110V appliances- this would in turn imply an alarming number of "what could possibly go wrong" eventualities.
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Only two really.

"It doesn't work"

"What's that burning smell?"

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There used to be a version that chopped the supply at a 50% duty cycle. They were marked for heating appliances only but had a wider power range.
Resistors like that were commonly supplied with 110V AC equipment fans in the early 1980s so that they could be used on UK mains.
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Put two in series, add a shorted plug and you've got a low power heater.
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Reminds me that circa 1970 Philips used to sell (for over a fiver) a car power adapter to allow the (7.5V ) EL3300-series cassette recorders to be used in a (12V) car: a ventilated metal box that I think just contained a watty wire-wound resistor to drop the excess 6V, fitted with a lead with a DIN plug for connection to the recorder. An excellent engineering solution that reflects the fact that the current drawn was a pretty constant ~100mA and that the recorders had been designed to continue working with partly exhausted batteries. I had made up my own, and didn't like to mention this to an acquaintance whose friend had made him up a complex electronic voltage regulated 7.5V PSU for his.

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I had an early compact cassette recorder (cheap model).
A lamp limiter and a large capacitor made me an adapter to run it from a model train set transformer with the control also set to maximum resistance.
It lasted for several years.
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I can see a bad situation involving cats and warm places..... At least any suppressor MOVs and X capacitors in the 110V appliance should be pretty effective when fed from that sort of source impedance.

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Reminds me that circa 1970 Philips used to sell (for over a fiver) a car power adapter to allow the (7.5V ) EL3300-series cassette recorders to be used in a (12V) car: a ventilated metal box that I think just contained a watty wire-wound resistor to drop the excess 6V, fitted with a lead with a DIN plug for connection to the recorder. An excellent engineering solution that reflects the fact that the current drawn was a pretty constant ~100mA and that the recorders had been designed to continue working with partly exhausted batteries. I had made up my own, and didn't like to mention this to an acquaintance whose friend had made him up a complex electronic voltage regulated 7.5V PSU for his.
Exactly my approach when using a Matsui DA1 DAB adapter in-car- the (very) nominal 6V 500mA unregulated wall wart actually produces around 7.5V with the module's c.400mA load (whether on or standby!), so I simply use a 12ohm 5W resistor to feed it. Acquaintances who had the same thoughts about in-car DAB had ideas about electronic regulators- my response was, why?- a 12ohm resistor will make a good spike-catcher in conjunction with the 2200uF on the input to the DA1, everything within is fed from 5V or 3.3V regulators anyway. I trust a wire-wound resistor far more than silicon junctions in the hostile automotive environment.
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The portable Philishave came with something similar built into the plug, for 110/220v. use.
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