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12th Oct 2021, 10:47 am | #1 |
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Identity help!
Hi,
I'm new to the forums but have lurked on here for a few years! Hope someone can help with this... I'm in the process of refurbing/fault finding a 'gram I picked up a few months ago. It is an Ilse Tonmobel cabinet, Collardo record deck but the Blue Spot/Blaupunkt receiver I'm struggling to identify? Have a model number etc but no name. I'm looking for schematic to aid repairs so any hints as to what the set is would be appreciated! |
12th Oct 2021, 10:51 am | #2 |
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Re: Identity help!
Pictures would help.
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12th Oct 2021, 10:54 am | #3 |
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Re: Identity help!
This time with pics...
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12th Oct 2021, 11:23 am | #4 |
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Re: Identity help!
You will probably find the Blaupunkt chassis was used in a number of more mainstream radiograms.
Interesting thing - I've never seen a cabinet like that before. |
12th Oct 2021, 11:28 am | #5 |
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Re: Identity help!
That's a COLLARO RC456 autochanger which would date it to late 1956 or 1957.
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12th Oct 2021, 12:11 pm | #6 |
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Re: Identity help!
Here's a selection that might use the same or similar chassis:
https://www.doctsf.com/grandlivre/pr...ubmit2=Valider You might be able to narrow it down by the valve line up. Lawrence. |
12th Oct 2021, 12:13 pm | #7 | |
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Just fault finding at the moment, have output but a bit distorted-hence looking for model/schematic. |
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12th Oct 2021, 10:55 pm | #8 |
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Re: Identity help!
I have what looks like (from the front) a Blaupunkt radio that uses the same chassis. Unfortunately it is currently packed away so I don't think I can get at it to find the model number. When I last had it working it sounded very good.
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13th Oct 2021, 12:30 am | #9 |
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13th Oct 2021, 9:59 am | #10 |
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Re: Identity help!
What is the valve line up?
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13th Oct 2021, 2:28 pm | #11 | |
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Re:Identity help!
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Line up is : ECH81, EF89, EABC80, EL84, (and 1 other that I can't identify as yet.). Photo below I can see a number on paper on the back of the chassis. The number on the cabinet i think will just refer to the Ilse model rather than any of the internals. |
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13th Oct 2021, 7:45 pm | #12 |
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Re: Identity help!
Before running for too long a period and with distortion present it would be advisable to change thr output valve grid coupling capacitors
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13th Oct 2021, 7:48 pm | #13 |
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Re: Identity help!
Thanks-Yes I’ve swapped out capacitors already and have output valve coming in the post!
Hopefully gets it up and running. |
13th Oct 2021, 7:54 pm | #14 | |
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13th Oct 2021, 10:31 pm | #15 | ||
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That’s great thanks for your help! |
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14th Oct 2021, 7:45 am | #16 |
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Re: Identity help!
Thanks to Lawrence identifying the set I've been able to cross reference that with the Radiomuseum listings for the cabinet manufacturer and came up with a match.
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ilse_charmaine_r66.html Thanks again! |
14th Oct 2021, 9:54 am | #17 |
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No problem.
Lawrence. |