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15th Nov 2018, 8:31 pm | #1 |
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TV Identification.
Hi, I have found a very cheap and claimed to be working CRT TV for sale not too far from me.
As some of you may know, I am on the search for a 1970s TV for my actual set to use (and probably daily) so this TV will only be temporary. I was wondering if anyone could possibly date it for me (My guess is late 1980s) and if anyone could tell me whether it would be a good TV to get to know CRTs. Thanks |
15th Nov 2018, 9:20 pm | #2 |
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Re: TV Identification.
That looks like a very ordinary 1990s-era portable TV. The Goodmans name was just a brand on cheap imported electronics by then. The chassis inside is probably Turkish or Chinese in origin, and service information may or may not be easy to get hold of. It's probably reliable though not the finest performer.
In terms of technology, it's not very similar to a 1970s set. All the electronics will be on one board in the bottom of the set, quite densely packed, not designed for easy servicing, and the components and techniques used in many areas will be different: most things packed in to integrated circuits, a switch mode power supply, a PIL (precision in-line) CRT instead of a delta gun one so no convergence or purity adjustments, and so on. If you want a TV to just switch on and use with vintage video games, it should be fine. It's not a good set to learn about servicing and adjustment though. Chris
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15th Nov 2018, 9:25 pm | #3 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Oh okay, thank you. I will avoid this then as im looking to be able to understand 1970s TVs, I do want a TV I can just switch on though, but that will come once the TV is set up.
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15th Nov 2018, 9:36 pm | #4 |
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Re: TV Identification.
These are quite good! I have three. They're a Daewoo chassis. One is actually badged Daewoo, one 'Anglo' and one 'FirstLine' (Spanish supermarket rebadge). Vintage circa 1987
They do not have AV inputs - just UHF. They do have remote control though. Nice sets to work on IIRC. I kept mine because the boxy cabinet means they are easily stackable, handy for my occasional art projects. As to faults, one had a hum bar which was just the main smoothing capacitor o/c; one had dry joints on the frame chip, and the other had a broken peg behind the standby switch so it wasn't actually pressing the panel switch behind it.
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15th Nov 2018, 9:48 pm | #5 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Would you say it's worth buying (Its a fiver) and having a look inside and get to know parts and such? I would also like a TV until I can get one, which could be from now to the time I can get my hands on a 70s TV which has been recommended to me.
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15th Nov 2018, 10:28 pm | #6 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Well, you could say I'm a bit biased as my experiences with these sets have been good, but I'd go for it if it is local to you.
Another recollection: I think Alba used this chassis in one model we used to have in the UK.
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15th Nov 2018, 11:29 pm | #7 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Okay thank you. I'll definitely go for it.
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16th Nov 2018, 1:09 am | #8 |
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Re: TV Identification.
I haven’t seen one of those for years!! I remember me and a mate from school finding one dumped behind some shops in the way home, the cabinet was damaged from being dropped, but we dragged it home anyway. We pulled the back off and were unfortunate to find the tube crushed at the base, so it was useless. We pulled a load of bits from it then stuffed the remains in the bottom of his bin. I had the board that controlled the LED display, and when connecting 12v to it I got the channel number on the display. Sure I’ve still got that board somewhere!
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16th Nov 2018, 2:08 am | #9 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Interesting story! I always find stories like this fascinating, could never have something like that happen now as everyone has their face glued to their phones.
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18th Nov 2018, 7:23 pm | #10 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Hi, I hope this is okay but I have found another TV, this time 1980s. I took some advice and I've decided to get a 1980s TV first as people have said they're simpler and easier to work on, which I need really if I want to get into retro/vintage TVs.
All I know about this TV is that it is a Luxor "2001" colour TV. Does anyone know how reliable and easy to work on these are? Thanks |
18th Nov 2018, 7:43 pm | #11 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Good sets, one thing, I think they used an STR chip in the psu, caused problems, may be on the wrong chassis though.
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18th Nov 2018, 8:05 pm | #12 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Oh okay, but would you say its worth buying? It's only a tenner so..
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18th Nov 2018, 8:43 pm | #13 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Luxor & Skantic were made by the same company in Sweden I believe.
I have only encountered the name once, long ago. The name survives. Owned by Vestel. |
18th Nov 2018, 9:35 pm | #14 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Oh thank you. Does that mean some parts could be compatible, should something break?
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18th Nov 2018, 10:11 pm | #15 |
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Re: TV Identification.
These Luxor sets were reliable. There is only one thing that was a problem. There is a long heat sink that is also is used as a ground conductor. It is soldered to the board. When these soldered connections break this messes up the set. If it is not done, extra ground wires must be mounted.
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18th Nov 2018, 10:25 pm | #16 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Oh okay, thank you. It doesn't matter too much anyway as someone has put a bid down last minute.
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18th Nov 2018, 11:14 pm | #17 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Did you get that 14" set we discussed earlier? I can't keep up with this
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20th Nov 2018, 3:33 pm | #18 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Oh im sorry, no, she had sold it on to someone else, who was closer and could pick it up before me. I should have said. sorry.
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25th Nov 2018, 12:44 am | #19 |
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Re: TV Identification.
Trying to broaden my searches, as I have been unsuccessful in getting the TV's mentioned before. I have found this 1970s Murphy B/W TV, which I quite like.
I was wondering if these sets would be easy to work on/maintain. I know people said that Philips G8/G11s were the way to go, but they were for colour sets, which I assume is a lot more complex. Any info on them would be great! Thanks |
25th Nov 2018, 1:32 am | #20 |
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Re: TV Identification.
That's an A774, I did a thread on one a few weeks ago. The general consensus was that it is probably the worst tv ever made.
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