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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 12:11 pm   #1
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Default 19in tuner I.D

I've just acquired a broadcast receiver unit, it's in a 19in chassis format. There's no maker's name or plate on it anywhere. It's built to near-military standard with chassis isolated from the front panel on shock mounts and the tuning capacitor mounted on its own shock mountings. I would think it's early post-war.

I suspect it's from an RGD radiogram, there's no HT rail, which is supplied through a Jones plug on the side. It came with a BSR record deck with a plug that fits it.

Does anyone know the model?
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 12:23 pm   #2
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Looks very similar to the unit fitted to the 1046C

http://www.rgd.org.uk/rgd_exh_pg_1046C.htm

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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 1:20 pm   #3
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Default Re: 10in tuner I.D

That looks like a direct hit!

147 gns in 1946 is around a quarter of the price of a house. It looks rather well made.

I suspect it may also have been used in a different console including a gram turntable.

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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 1:53 pm   #4
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Hello,
Possibly even more similar to the 1046G:-
http://www.rgd.org.uk/rgd_exh_pg_1046G.htm
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 2:38 pm   #5
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If I've done my sums right, in 2018 money that receiver would cost around 50000! (based on David's comment that 147 guineas (154.35) was about a quarter of the price of a house in 1946) It should have been very well built for that kind of money!!
Even based on wage inflation in 70 years, that 154.35 works out at around 15,000 in 2018 money!
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 3:00 pm   #6
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Houses have gone up faster than other things, though .....

Montoya Mansions cost me just shy of 30 000 in 1996. When I paid off the mortgage in 2011, the place was worth four times that; during which time, my wages after tax had barely doubled. And even if I did sell, I'd only be able to afford another two-up, two-down terraced house .....
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 5:31 pm   #7
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Default Re: 10in tuner I.D

Thanks! 1036C looks about right. The other one would mean the stations were written on their sides.

TBH before I thought of RGD I thought first of all it was part of a PA system (but why the wood!) and then part of a yacht (the shockmount) then realised it must've been a high end consumer product.

I'd love to know what happened to that riot of walnut though.

Edit: 147gns on the This Is Money website translates as 6300 in today's money.
They use historic inflation records to calculate it.
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I'd love to know what happened to that riot of walnut though.
I take it 1036C is a typo

Unfortunately the rest of it including the amplifier and power unit has been spirited away to feed the Valve Audio craze, frustrating but there it is.

There are arguments from both sides I think its a shame it isn't what it was, but thats me.

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The rear view of the chassis shows a circular two pin socket which has two slots, to take a two blade plug, one blade somewhat wider than the other.

That type of connector was commonly used for loudspeaker connections on mid 1940's onward, Bell & Howell 16mm sound projectors.
I have dismatled a number of these and still have such plugs and sockets. It seems strange to use one on a radiogram.
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the plug I think is for the gram motor which is switched on when you turn the left knob up to illuminate 'G'. The mains cable and plug came with it. The 4-pin socket above that matches the one on the deck that is also here with me.

Sorry yes, a couple of typos, the model and also the title should read '19in' tuner. Must be the stress of doing it at work!!
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The rear view of the chassis shows a circular two pin socket which has two slots, to take a two blade plug, one blade somewhat wider than the other.

That type of connector was commonly used for loudspeaker connections on mid 1940's onward, Bell & Howell 16mm sound projectors.
I have dismatled a number of these and still have such plugs and sockets. It seems strange to use one on a radiogram.
This one ?

I have all kinds of test equipment from the 50's and 60's that use these as interlock plugs, selector plugs and even LT supply plugs

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Interesting about the plugs supplying gram motor!

I hope you never let a Bell and Howell loudspeaker owner anywhere near it!!
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