UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Vintage Telephony and Telecomms

Notices

Vintage Telephony and Telecomms Vintage Telephones, Telephony and Telecomms Equipment

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 18th Aug 2019, 7:48 pm   #1
Ryan_1993
Hexode
 
Ryan_1993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: York, North Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 270
Default A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

Hi all,

Just won the bid on this really quite nice Candlestick telephone. However, I'm struggling to find any specific details on it. It doesn't appear to be a GPO 150.

My best guess would be that its a TELEPHONE No. 124 as it seems to be a close match, but the only photos I've found of the 124 are in black and white so I'm not sure if the surround mouth piece is meant to be brass or ebonite.

The telephone has markings ST'28 and a No 1 again not really familiar. The patent code on the dial seems to relate to a Siemens Brothers Patent so appears to be a dial Dial, Automatic, No. 8FA.

Bidding on it went pretty crazy at the last minute and I ended up paying 178 which is more than I wanted, but if it is a Tele 124 with an early dial fitted I think it might have paid off perhaps. I am hoping that because bidding went crazy my hunch might be correct LOL.

I just hope to god it isn't one of the multiples of fakes you see ebay swamped with. I am pretty good at spotting the fake Indian Bakelite telephones due to their poor quality, but my expertise isn't in candlestick telephones.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this

Here are the attached Photos
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	s-l1600.jpg
Views:	138
Size:	53.0 KB
ID:	188539   Click image for larger version

Name:	5.jpg
Views:	121
Size:	67.4 KB
ID:	188540   Click image for larger version

Name:	4.jpg
Views:	124
Size:	69.2 KB
ID:	188541   Click image for larger version

Name:	1.jpg
Views:	115
Size:	55.7 KB
ID:	188542   Click image for larger version

Name:	2.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	115.6 KB
ID:	188543  


Last edited by Ryan_1993; 18th Aug 2019 at 8:14 pm.
Ryan_1993 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th Aug 2019, 10:17 pm   #2
Ryan_1993
Hexode
 
Ryan_1993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: York, North Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 270
Default Re: A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

Someone has suggested this is likely to be a rare Tele No.160 for use on party lines, rather than a No. 124.

When the phone arrives an internal examination should be able to confirm or deny what this actually is, but either way I shouldn't loose any money on it If I ever come to sell it. Even if it's a GPO 150. it seems an early production run, so should fetch quite good money tidied up a bit.
Ryan_1993 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th Aug 2019, 2:46 am   #3
Ryan_1993
Hexode
 
Ryan_1993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: York, North Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 270
Default Re: A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

Another update

Someone has also suggest and more likely is that this is possibly from Stuart Turner Ltd an engineering firm based in Henley on Thames founded in 1906.

If this is the case it seems extremely rare can't find any other telephones made by them online. Although I did see that they were listed as a parts supplier for the GPO.

Its getting rather intriguing all this
Ryan_1993 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th Aug 2019, 8:22 am   #4
Dave Moll
Dekatron
 
Dave Moll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Cumbria (CA13), UK
Posts: 4,181
Default Re: A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

Having read the 160 info. on Bob Freshwater's site, I am puzzled how this works. I thought you needed to check the line wasn't in use by the other party before pressing "call exchange" to connect. If connection is done automatically using an additional springset on the switchhook, there is surely no opportunity to check first.
__________________
Mending is better than Ending (cf Brave New World by Aldous Huxley)
Dave Moll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th Aug 2019, 3:52 pm   #5
Ryan_1993
Hexode
 
Ryan_1993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: York, North Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 270
Default Re: A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

Right so my phone arrived a short while ago and I've dissembled it.

Its very interesting, but its nothing like i've ever seen before. It appears to have a very early Copper dial No.8 installed with the smaller label holder as well.

Here are some further photos of it

Does anyone have an ideas what this could actually be?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo 20-08-2019, 3 29 29 pm.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	78.6 KB
ID:	188639   Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo 20-08-2019, 9 59 10 am.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	76.1 KB
ID:	188640   Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo 20-08-2019, 10 02 30 am.jpg
Views:	71
Size:	74.5 KB
ID:	188641   Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo 20-08-2019, 1 58 36 pm.jpg
Views:	72
Size:	81.4 KB
ID:	188642   Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo 20-08-2019, 1 36 16 pm.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	40.3 KB
ID:	188643  


Last edited by Ryan_1993; 20th Aug 2019 at 4:08 pm.
Ryan_1993 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th Aug 2019, 9:53 pm   #6
Pellseinydd
Hexode
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Flintshire, UK.
Posts: 453
Default Re: A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

How many terminals are there on the dial? There appear to be five conductors in the dial cord. The diagram shows a Dial No 10 - they had the copper finger plate with small dial label from their introduction in late 1924 (replacing the Dial No 8 as the 'standard dial' ) until c1930 when the larger dial label holder was introduced .


Ian J
Pellseinydd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st Aug 2019, 12:13 am   #7
Ryan_1993
Hexode
 
Ryan_1993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: York, North Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 270
Default Re: A Slightly unusual Candlestick Telephone

Yes, having further researched it appears to be a Dial Number 10 with five contacts. Been told internally it looks quite similar to a 124 series, but not 100%
Ryan_1993 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 1:06 am.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2019, Paul Stenning.