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Old 31st May 2023, 7:49 pm   #1
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Default Transistor VTVM made common parts.

Transistor VTVM made this from common parts.

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Hi Dave,
welcome to the Forum. That looks like an interesting, well documented design that you have shared here. A couple of questions - is that a centre-zero meter you have used (pointer mid-scale with no obvious input voltage in the photo), and which 4.5V batteries are you using?

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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 10:50 pm   #3
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It is 9 volts and the centre is 4.5. I used six AA batteries.
Yes you can zero to centre 1 volt to 100 volts.

If you want to zero at 0.5 volts you need to use 8 AA batteries. The circuit can use two 9 volt batteries too.

In America I have almost received 16,000 views to date.
It was built from parts from Amazon and Walmart.
The front face in photo print on a Laser printer and then covered with .09" plexiglass from Home Depot
I would post link here but some sites do not like it.
But web search [ transistor VTVM ]

Photo of front under construction.

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Old 3rd Jun 2023, 5:44 pm   #4
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Default Re: Transistor VTVM made common parts.

I updated the notes on schematic and added the AF and RF probes.
Include a PDF schematic for a clearer view of transistor VTVM

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If you wonder why did not put a ohms scale in the meter face would take a long time to make and I have a VOM that does same job.

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Here is a drawing on how made probe from a old wind-chime copper tube can be used too.
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Hi,
this info is very helpful, thank you !
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this info is very helpful, thank you !
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Old 8th Jun 2023, 1:09 am   #8
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this info is very helpful, thank you !
If need more info let me know.
All parts came from Amazon or Walmart.

When look at this project it was 4 parts.

1) good simple schematic
2) good face plate not use a pen.
3) meter face the best low cost was a fine line sharpie set.
4) great simple probes. It base Eico thin design it even thinner than Eico.

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Quadruple probe for AF and RF work.

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Here is a Quadruple AC, AF & RF PROBE schematic.
It schematic fitting in to a probe.
Not tested at this time.

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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 2:42 am   #11
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Here probe I making for 20Hz to 50Mz
This base on well know tube type ac for VTVM

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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 4:31 pm   #12
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Here is a Eico VTVM AC AF schematic I found last night. It looks good and simple for probe.
It one last design of a VTVM by Eico.
Holding on probe till I can research this schematic.

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Old 25th Jun 2023, 4:47 am   #13
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Here is schematic I am using for probes after months of searching. The last thing in this build

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Old 25th Jun 2023, 10:53 am   #14
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Here is the schematic of the VTVM in pdf file for printing. All data need is on the schematic for building

Input resistance is 11MEG
Probes schematic DC to 250Mhz.


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Old 25th Jun 2023, 12:14 pm   #15
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Hi Dave,
the 6 potentiometers, R16 to R20, are each 10K and are being used to adjust for a voltage range of 0.5V to 100V, which is a 200:1 ratio of voltages. Are these multi-turn potentiometers, and how difficult was it to set each one accurately?

A minor observation, the designation R11 has been used twice on the schematic.

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Old 25th Jun 2023, 4:25 pm   #16
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R16 - 20 is just a standard potentiometer
Not hard to adjust it is only a 50Ua meter.
I started with one potentiometers for adjusting the meter calibration. I found that I would get a few volts on each range . I fix by using a calibrated for each range. Now every range is on mark.

A multi-turn potentiometer would be nicer if had do over again.

Thank you I will fix R11 error

The VTVM is finished for few months now and working great.

I may ad a 5 to 1 probe for 500 and 250 volt range.

Dave

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If wonder why I do not put 500 or 1000 volt rage on meter is the case can have 500 or 1000 volts or I would loose my shielding by fix the 1,000 volts on case

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the 6 potentiometers, R16 to R20, are each 10K and are being used to adjust for a voltage range of 0.5V to 100V, which is a 200:1 ratio of voltages. Are these multi-turn potentiometers, and how difficult was it to set each one accurately?

A minor observation, the designation R11 has been used twice on the schematic.

Cheers
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I will keep even informed on any updates on the Transistor VTVM.
My next equipment build will be a AF generator.

I started designing in Dec 29 2022 the VTVM.
First simply Transistor did not work well.
Next was different chip good no soldering needed just by a LF353 the chip is so cheap I use as fuse too. Add a diodes to meter protection.
I add calibration to all voltage range as want to right on mark for voltage.
Some pass writing I spent researching probes on to my first choes was best.
The VTVM can goto 1,000 volts , I did want 1,000 volts in the VTVM so if need to read 1,000 volt and the sentevity of a VTVM. My VOM will cover 1,000 volts goes to 1,000 volts both AC and DC it also reads ohms too. I can buy probe foe 15,000 to if ever need to read that high.

You can buy a kit but they look cheap too.
I did build from schematic in 1960's but loss in moving.
There only two I do not build and new RF generator and new VOM. I do this so they are factory calibrated. Even my Eico Oscilloscope is from kit back in the 1960's

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Here is a schematic of my next probe.
It is RF , AF/AC and DC.
The schematic shows max voltage of 150v
You Chang the resistors for 250 , 500 and a 1,000 volts.

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