pS42G10B - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

toshiba tony · 13th Mar 2023, 2:44 pm

Hello All,
Why does my Plasma tv have two leds in the remote? They are not in parallel, in fact they are set at angles to each other and only one of them emits IR when asked. I can only assume the remote also receives signals but there is no mention of any poshness like this in the manual. Thanks anyone.

Welsh Anorak · 13th Mar 2023, 4:05 pm

This is a Panasonic plasma.
I have no idea! I've just pulled a generic Panasonic remote from that era to bits and there's just the one LED that pokes through the front.
You obviously have a very special remote control. Can we have a picture?

toshiba tony · 14th Mar 2023, 4:07 pm

Glyn, thanks for your note, used to be high tech, did a total of 50 years for LG and Sony. Tried photo plan, no go. It's a common handset, I'll see if my carers can help. Damned stroke and dementia. Ta

Amtec123 · 14th Mar 2023, 5:33 pm

I think you could be correct Tony that it's a receiver to copy functions in "learn mode".
Maybe the same remote control can be used with other TV's that do have the learn facility.

Les

Welsh Anorak · 15th Mar 2023, 10:37 am

I suspect this might not be an original Panasonic remote, and as Les suggests might be a 'learning' remote. Panasonic TV remotes were all basically the same with an LED poking through the front and a long slim battery cover on the back covering two AA batteries, one above the other.

Using Google to find 'Panasonic TV remote control' comes up with several images of the original style.

toshiba tony · 15th Mar 2023, 11:10 am

Wish I knew the art of posting pics, it's a Panasonic h\set. Used to be in tv trade for 50 years. Now forgotten to even make a pot of tea!
I'll persevere. It pays to be obstinate. Tony.

toshiba tony · 15th Mar 2023, 11:13 am

Just checked this site again, I sent it!

Welsh Anorak · 15th Mar 2023, 1:56 pm

Well, I'm foxed.
Here's an identical remote and no mysterious LED.
Help!

Maarten · 15th Mar 2023, 4:33 pm

It's not identical.

Tony's remote seems to be able to control an extra apparatus, maybe a home theatre. I suspect it could have some kind of learning mode.

Buzby123 · 15th Mar 2023, 7:09 pm

I've got one like Tony's, had it for years, never noticed the 2nd opto device !.

Just tested, and it does look like both are transmitters, but the lower one is angled down quite bit.

Maybe it's to allow the user a bit of leeway, in that you can see and press the buttons if the remote is tilted slightly towards you, then the lower LED is now more horizontal and pointing at the telly.

toshiba tony · 15th Mar 2023, 8:55 pm

That was one of my ideas, I don't have logical thinking any more, it just puzzles me with respect to the 2nd led. Ta everyone.

Iontrap · 16th Mar 2023, 12:44 am

My dear old dad when controlling the Pana freeview box beneath the television always pointed the remote at the TV.
The second LED meant this worked. Seemed a good idea to me I always though it intentional.

Iontrap · 16th Mar 2023, 1:02 am

Note used when two Panasonic items are using Viera link.

Welsh Anorak · 16th Mar 2023, 9:58 am

Well, you live and learn! I have a boxful of Panasonic remotes and, yes, two of them have this second LED. Never noticed it before.
Sorry for doubting you Tony!

toshiba tony · 16th Mar 2023, 11:41 am

Cheers all, sorted!

13th Mar 2023, 2:44 pm	#1
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 963	pS42G10B Hello All, Why does my Plasma tv have two leds in the remote? They are not in parallel, in fact they are set at angles to each other and only one of them emits IR when asked. I can only assume the remote also receives signals but there is no mention of any poshness like this in the manual. Thanks anyone.

13th Mar 2023, 4:05 pm	#2
Welsh Anorak Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Wales, UK. Posts: 6,559	Re: pS42G10B This is a Panasonic plasma. I have no idea! I've just pulled a generic Panasonic remote from that era to bits and there's just the one LED that pokes through the front. You obviously have a very special remote control. Can we have a picture? __________________ Glyn www.gdelectronics.wales

14th Mar 2023, 4:07 pm	#3
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 963	Re: pS42G10B Glyn, thanks for your note, used to be high tech, did a total of 50 years for LG and Sony. Tried photo plan, no go. It's a common handset, I'll see if my carers can help. Damned stroke and dementia. Ta

14th Mar 2023, 5:33 pm	#4
Amtec123 Pentode Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Reigate, Surrey, UK. Posts: 110	Re: pS42G10B I think you could be correct Tony that it's a receiver to copy functions in "learn mode". Maybe the same remote control can be used with other TV's that do have the learn facility. Les __________________ It's alright leaving me. Last edited by Amtec123; 14th Mar 2023 at 5:43 pm.

15th Mar 2023, 10:37 am	#5
Welsh Anorak Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Wales, UK. Posts: 6,559	Re: pS42G10B I suspect this might not be an original Panasonic remote, and as Les suggests might be a 'learning' remote. Panasonic TV remotes were all basically the same with an LED poking through the front and a long slim battery cover on the back covering two AA batteries, one above the other. Using Google to find 'Panasonic TV remote control' comes up with several images of the original style. __________________ Glyn www.gdelectronics.wales

15th Mar 2023, 11:10 am	#6
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 963	Re: pS42G10B Wish I knew the art of posting pics, it's a Panasonic h\set. Used to be in tv trade for 50 years. Now forgotten to even make a pot of tea! I'll persevere. It pays to be obstinate. Tony. Attached Thumbnails

15th Mar 2023, 11:13 am	#7
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 963	Re: pS42G10B Just checked this site again, I sent it!

15th Mar 2023, 1:56 pm	#8
Welsh Anorak Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Wales, UK. Posts: 6,559	Re: pS42G10B Well, I'm foxed. Here's an identical remote and no mysterious LED. Help! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Glyn www.gdelectronics.wales

15th Mar 2023, 4:33 pm	#9
Maarten Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Haarlem, Netherlands Posts: 3,949	Re: pS42G10B It's not identical. Tony's remote seems to be able to control an extra apparatus, maybe a home theatre. I suspect it could have some kind of learning mode.

15th Mar 2023, 7:09 pm	#10
Buzby123 Heptode Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Culcheth, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 576	Re: pS42G10B I've got one like Tony's, had it for years, never noticed the 2nd opto device !. Just tested, and it does look like both are transmitters, but the lower one is angled down quite bit. Maybe it's to allow the user a bit of leeway, in that you can see and press the buttons if the remote is tilted slightly towards you, then the lower LED is now more horizontal and pointing at the telly.

15th Mar 2023, 8:55 pm	#11
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 963	Re: pS42G10B That was one of my ideas, I don't have logical thinking any more, it just puzzles me with respect to the 2nd led. Ta everyone.

16th Mar 2023, 12:44 am	#12
Iontrap Pentode Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Staines, Surrey, UK. Posts: 127	Re: pS42G10B My dear old dad when controlling the Pana freeview box beneath the television always pointed the remote at the TV. The second LED meant this worked. Seemed a good idea to me I always though it intentional.

16th Mar 2023, 1:02 am	#13
Iontrap Pentode Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Staines, Surrey, UK. Posts: 127	Re: pS42G10B Note used when two Panasonic items are using Viera link.

16th Mar 2023, 9:58 am	#14
Welsh Anorak Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Wales, UK. Posts: 6,559	Re: pS42G10B Well, you live and learn! I have a boxful of Panasonic remotes and, yes, two of them have this second LED. Never noticed it before. Sorry for doubting you Tony! __________________ Glyn www.gdelectronics.wales

16th Mar 2023, 11:41 am	#15
toshiba tony Heptode Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accrington, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 963	Re: pS42G10B Cheers all, sorted!