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8th Aug 2021, 11:50 am | #21 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Yeah this is a good point. I think maybe the "Series" designation is for the later models with "Mk ii, Mk ii, ..." pointing to earlier models. I'm not entirely sure though... I've desoldered the blue ripple/reservoir cap (32uF) and measured it with both my VC97 multimeter (it shows overload) and on the chinese ESR meter measures 32pF! I've got another on order from Cricklewood.
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19th Aug 2021, 8:27 pm | #22 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
2 x new 32uF double capacitors have replaced the old ones. The machine now turns on and the amplifier works!!
Now I am finding a fault with the deck. FFWD and RWD are working OK however, Play doesn't. The solenoid engages but the capstan motor does not start so there is no capstan motor spinning. Upon inspection it looks fine though. Blast!! Its a 3 speed deck. Anyone else have a 3 speed Vortexion WVB? or WVA, CBL or WVC for that matter? |
20th Aug 2021, 10:03 am | #23 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Here are some pics of the deck capstan motor and flywheel setup. Notice there are 3 metal brackets ? They seem to be associated with the speed selector (well, this seems logical) They all have a spring each dangling from a small hole on each although they are not attached to anything else... Also, should the capstan motor have a belt to the flywheel? I wouldnt have thought so but I cant see an idler from the motor to the capstan....
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20th Aug 2021, 6:25 pm | #24 | |
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20th Aug 2021, 7:03 pm | #25 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
There should be three idlers, one for each speed. Have a grope round the back of the flywheel if you can't see them - they obviously should sit between the capstan motor shaft and the flywheel. Unless, that is, some has been in there before you and removed them to flog as replacements for the Series Seven Ferrograph, whose polyurethane idlers turned to goo...
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21st Aug 2021, 12:03 am | #26 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Yes the photos in Post 23 do look somewhat similar to the Ferrograph Series 7 idlers.
Posts 64 & 116 show the Ferrograph idler wheels - https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=163381 David |
21st Aug 2021, 12:09 am | #27 | |
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21st Aug 2021, 12:18 am | #28 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
On eBay, probably - Terry, of rubber roller fame, is ailing at the moment, and in any case he refurbishes existing cores, which you don't have.
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21st Aug 2021, 12:19 am | #29 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
I do not know if they are the same as Ferrograph Series 7 idlers but if they are you can get a set of 3 (used) Series 3-7 idlers on eBay.
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21st Aug 2021, 8:09 am | #30 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
That's the whole point - the idler size didn't change from Series 6 to Series 7, but the material did. Polyuethane was hailed as a wonder material for idlers and pinch rollers at the time, and Ferrograph latched on to it in their attempt to come up to date, and suffered severe reputational damage as the idlers tyrned to mush. Between this fiasco and sticky shed, duff polyurethane has caused tape users a lot of trouble.
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21st Aug 2021, 9:06 am | #31 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
plenty of good used ones on ebay at the moment, no connection to me just signposting
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21st Aug 2021, 10:21 am | #32 | |
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I see 2 ebay entries for idlers. One has the levers on them and the other is just for 3 wheels. My machine needs more than just the wheels. I dont know what to do. |
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21st Aug 2021, 11:07 am | #33 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Buy the assembly, I would. If you have bits left over, so be it.
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21st Aug 2021, 11:30 am | #34 |
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21st Aug 2021, 5:41 pm | #35 | |
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21st Aug 2021, 5:45 pm | #36 | |
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21st Aug 2021, 8:34 pm | #37 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Yeah it looks like it. See the pictures? The 3 springs should attach to them.
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21st Aug 2021, 8:46 pm | #38 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
I did look at the photos but without looking at my Ferrograph to remind me exactly where the levers fit, was not sure if yours are missing.
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21st Aug 2021, 9:53 pm | #39 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Get the whole lot carriers and all as I think that your carriers are missing, Ferrograph ones will fit the Vortexion as they are one and the same deck. The only thing to be aware of is that the earlier Ferrograph decks were only two speed so be sure you are getting three idlers and not two although two would be a start.
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21st Aug 2021, 11:06 pm | #40 |
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Re: Vortexion WVB smoking component..
Some Ferrograph Series 7 photos showing the levers/carriers, cannot easily match up the hardware to your photos.
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