Compiling a list of SC/MP Project Boards

[Phil__G]

Originally Posted by HelloWorld

...On the bright side, my widow will look awfully attractive to other geeks when they catch wind of my altair, SOL, 4004 hardware, etc.

ooh, oooh ooooh... Sol 20 ! (walks right past attractive widow...)

[ortek_service]

Originally Posted by HelloWorld

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The sad thing is, that like Slothie, someday I will just stop posting new videos and stop replying to emails and unless someone personally knows me, people will just be left guessing, or their order for bare project boards on my tindie site will go unfilled until it gets refunded.
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Well this forum at least does have a way of acknowledging that a member has sadly passed - A bit like 'Silent Key' announcements in our Amateur Radio publication - with your 'valve type' (that increments, the more posts you make) under your UserName getting changed retrospectively to 'Rest in Peace' so it will be clear if reading old-threads / looking-up a member.

However, I don't know how the Admin-mods etc get informed, to change this - possibly by someone putting an announcement in one of the Member News areas?
And whilst for Karen Orton this 'valve type' has got changed to reflect this, it did not get changed for Slothie.

[Red to black]

I hadn't realised the sad passing of Slothie which was why I asked the question.
He came across as a knowledgeable and genuine nice guy, I never knew him personally or had any dealings with him.
His projects and posts were always interesting reading, so sad to know his fate, Rip Ian.

[Station X]

Originally Posted by ortek_service

Well this forum at least does have a way of acknowledging that a member has sadly passed - A bit like 'Silent Key' announcements in our Amateur Radio publication - with your 'valve type' (that increments, the more posts you make) under your UserName getting changed retrospectively to 'Rest in Peace' so it will be clear if reading old-threads / looking-up a member.

However, I don't know how the Admin-mods etc get informed, to change this - possibly by someone putting an announcement in one of the Member News areas?
And whilst for Karen Orton this 'valve type' has got changed to reflect this, it did not get changed for Slothie.

We generally get informed by another forum member who knew the deceased. Sometimes we'll be contacted by a family member. We like to verify the information though as at least two members have incorrectly been reported as deceased.

Does anyone have definite information that Slothie is deceased, or is it hearsay?

[Red to black]

Sensitive subject Graham for all the correct reasons, walking that fine line, obviously I don't know for definite, however several very well respected members seem to point in that direction sadly.

[SiriusHardware]

Does anyone have definite information that Slothie is deceased, or is it hearsay?

Graham, I'll answer this in a PM to you some time in the next day or so, as this is not really what the thread is about.

[Red to black]

Thanks Sirius, I really didn't want to take this thread off topic especially on such matters, thanks.

[SiriusHardware]

On the bright side, my widow will look awfully attractive to other geeks when they catch wind of my altair

"Handsome professional man, GSOH, seeks attractive professional lady with own home and an extensive vintage computer collection. Please send photos of computer collection"

Yes, I can see it...

So, are there any more SC/MP based systems we haven't mentioned yet? I think Owen (ortek) got most of them.

[Phil__G]

Are we including magazine builds? Theres the "Skip" on page 79:
file:///C:/public/phil/scmp/Kilobaud_Microcomputing_1979_March.pdf

[Mark1960]

Originally Posted by Phil__G

Are we including magazine builds? Theres the "Skip" on page 79:
file:///C:/public/phil/scmp/Kilobaud_Microcomputing_1979_March.pdf

I think thats a link to your hard drive.

[Phil__G]

Ah sorry, rushed post! Here we go: https://archive.org/download/Kilobaud197903/Kilobaud%201979-03.pdf
Skip II is on printed page 84 (as opposed to pagecount)

[Timbucus]

You have the UC1003 also recreated by philopat https://forum.system-cfg.com/viewtopic.php?t=12448

[Timbucus]

You obviously have the SCAMPY which is the subject of the two books by Robert P. Haviland "How to Design, Build & Program your own working computer system" and the advanced one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0830600221

[Timbucus]

If anyone fancies a real challenge in recreation the completely lost and almost undocumented I.E.S.:



Which I find interesting as it says it can use peripheral cards for LCDS or ETI bus... and had five calculator displays for each of the registers - COOL.

[coolsnaz2]

Hi HelloWorld

A couple more for you.

First is PiVDU, which is a VDU board which attaches to the MK14, link below shows development.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1595943

And second is MK14-NV, which again is for the MK14, two versions available, one with 128k and second with 64k.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=203463&page=7

Ian

[HelloWorld]

Originally Posted by coolsnaz2

Hi HelloWorld

A couple more for you.

First is PiVDU, which is a VDU board which attaches to the MK14, link below shows development.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1595943

And second is MK14-NV, which again is for the MK14, two versions available, one with 128k and second with 64k.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=203463&page=7

Ian

Hi Ian,
I did not see a link in the discussion or video to a project page on these. Are boards or build files available for these?

[HelloWorld]

Originally Posted by Phil__G

Are we including magazine builds? Theres the "Skip" on page 79:
file:///C:/public/phil/scmp/Kilobaud_Microcomputing_1979_March.pdf

It is good that these are all documented somewhere, but for my SC/MP "other projects" page, I am limiting to projects where boards or build files (including any necessary firmware or resident monitors) are readily available.

[coolsnaz2]

Hi Ian,
I did not see a link in the discussion or video to a project page on these. Are boards or build files available for these?

Unfortunately both projects have never been published on an official project page.

Both projects have only been published on Vintage Radio web site and Facebook.

I have spare boards of both projects, I also have the Gerber files used to produce the boards.

Ian

[SiriusHardware]

I would love for all of the SC/MP (and related) projects which have ever been featured here to be fully available in every aspect including any relevant PCB design files. If we had Slothie's gerbers for his Ortonview PCB for example, we could much more easily re-jig it to accommodate Mark1960's '7474 fix' for the 'occasional memory corruption' problem.

Pros:

Everyone gets a chance at benefiting from the hard work you've done and building your project.

Cons:

If you publish every detail of the project including the PCB files, someone may take it into their head to not just have some made and sell the surplus for what they cost to have made (which would be entirely reasonable, since most people only want one board but typically have to have a minimum of five made), - they might also decide that selling the PCBs for substantially more is a nice way to get money for nothing.

This did happen with Slothie's issue VI MK14 PCB for a time: The cost of having the minimum five PCBs made and posted here was, at the time, about 25 GBP, so it would be reasonable for anyone who had a batch made to keep the one PCB they wanted and offer the other four around for about £5 each.

Instead, someone was having them made and offering them for about £20 each - that price was very carefully chosen because:-

-Most people only wanted one PCB anyway, not five, so the opportunity to buy one for 20 GBP fulfilled that need, still cost less than the 25 GBP cost to have five made, and did away with the problem of what to do with the surplus PCBs.

-Given a choice, most people would prefer to buy just one PCB which is already made, already in their own country and will only take a day or so to arrive.

Slothie was always pretty good about it, but still... I don't want to dissuade anyone from putting their work out there for the good of the community but once you do put something out there you don't really have control over what happens to it next.

Myself, I consider anything that I've made that I post on a public forum (images, code, circuit diagrams) to be public domain as soon as it's posted.

[HelloWorld]

Originally Posted by SiriusHardware

I would love for all of the SC/MP (and related) projects which have ever been featured here to be fully available in every aspect including any relevant PCB design files.

...

Myself, I consider anything that I've made that I post on a public forum (images, code, circuit diagrams) to be public domain as soon as it's posted.

I too consider everything I put out there to be public domain, in fact that is my primary objective. However, I intentionally only post build files and not design files because I do not want modified derivatives of my boards circulating and [possibly] giving my boards a bad reputation.

On this topic, the build files for v0.9 of the Nibbler are now available (but there are a few bugs noted on the schematic that you will want to note first). My preference is for people in a country to order boards and then distribute locally.

Nibbler Workalike v0.9 Build and ROM files: https://bitsofthegoldenage.org/documentation/digi-key-nibbler-workalike-board-documentation/