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3rd May 2022, 9:49 pm | #1 |
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What type of spool is this?
This 7" spool partially loaded with 1/4" audio tape arrived with one of my R2R purchases.
The Cine/Trident hub is about twice the size of a normal audio tape spool hub and top and bottom plastic flanges are very flimsy/flexible. I assume the spool must be some sort of film/cine spool. David |
3rd May 2022, 10:43 pm | #2 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Sounds like a Super 8 spool, the 'trident' is larger diameter, presumably Kodak did this to stop people trying to load Super 8 film into a Standard 8 projector.
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3rd May 2022, 10:49 pm | #3 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Empty Super-8 spools often came with an adaptor for standard 8 / tape recorder hubs.
Boots universal 5" cine spools, supplied with Super-8 hubs and Standard 8 adaptors. These Standard 8 adaptors only have a single groove as that is all that is needed for a cine projector, and so would have to be modified to fit a tape recorder's three drive wings. Last edited by emeritus; 3rd May 2022 at 11:11 pm. Reason: photo addrd |
3rd May 2022, 10:51 pm | #4 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
I don't have one to compare but it looks like the modern reels holding paper tapes with small electronic components stuck onto the tapes. I see them in my local electronics parts store.
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3rd May 2022, 11:06 pm | #5 |
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3rd May 2022, 11:28 pm | #6 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
High quality "Premier" 7" spool specifically sold for use with Super- 8, Standard 8, and 1/4" tape, with three-wing adaptor. Its plastic can incorporates splicing blocks for 1/4" tape and both cine film types.
edit: yes, Standard 8 and 1/4" tape spools are in practice mechanically interchangeable. The main difference seems to be that spools for tape often have a radial slot on each side to facilitate attaching the leader to the hub, whereas cine film spools normally have continuous rims with no radial slots. Last edited by emeritus; 3rd May 2022 at 11:47 pm. Reason: comment added |
4th May 2022, 1:19 am | #7 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
I was looking at the centre hole with the three radial cutouts. On David's reel the cutouts seem larger than Super 8 and are squared. Super 8 are rounded.
The "flimsy/flexible" sides suggest temporary use rather than repeated play of a tape or film. The moulding marks and general finish look rather "industrial". Also the three larger radial slots, each seemingly of different width. On the other hand not sure what the red, blue and green dot symbol signifies. Last edited by TIMTAPE; 4th May 2022 at 1:37 am. |
4th May 2022, 6:07 am | #8 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Maybe it's an RGB led tape spool
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4th May 2022, 8:59 am | #9 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Auto-feed component strip reels do seem to be based on the Super-8 format. When I needed an empty Super-8 spool for transferring some home movies I spotted a reel of strip components in the Rapid Electronics bargain bin. It worked perfectly and was way cheaper than buying an empty spool from regular sources.
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4th May 2022, 9:02 am | #10 | |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
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Early EMI aluminium tape spools were made by Clydon, a film accessory company, a 7 inch 400 foot 8mm standard 8 film spool is exactly the same as a 7 inch 1200 foot (standard play) tape spool. No super 8 film in the early fifties of course and as mentioned above the spool centre for super 8 was changed from 5/16 to 1/2 inches to avoid confusion and film damage. |
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4th May 2022, 9:56 am | #11 |
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4th May 2022, 10:02 am | #12 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Are the three colour ‘flashes’ on the edge of the spool a clue that this might be some sort of domestic format video tape rather than audio? Akai?
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4th May 2022, 10:40 am | #13 | |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
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4th May 2022, 10:41 am | #14 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
That's the sort of thing I was thinking of: New small electronic components stuck to a long paper tape, wound onto a plastic reel. I've seen photos of multiple reels in a rack with presumably a different component on each reel. The LED would just be one type of component.
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4th May 2022, 11:10 am | #15 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
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4th May 2022, 2:55 pm | #16 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
The image directly above is extremely similar with a couple of very minor differences.
The RGB colour flashes are part of a piece of tape that is stuck to the spool flange. David |
5th May 2022, 12:23 am | #17 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Definitely from a modern LED strip. I have seen them at my local electronics place. The plastic is extremely flimsy and the flanges are usually warped. Not usable for audio tape or even film I'd say.
I suspect in this case someone who knew no better thought it might do tom test a deck with or something. I'd place it on a record deck turntable next to your tape machine and gently wind it onto a new spool.
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5th May 2022, 1:16 pm | #18 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
So what function does the Super 8 type hub provide for the LED strip spool ? is it used for instance to load the strip onto the spool ?
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5th May 2022, 2:30 pm | #19 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Probably, yes. But the spool is almost certainly physically the same as those used for other components for use in pick and place machines. They wil need to be able to lightly brake the spools in order to stop the equivalent of a tape salad.
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5th May 2022, 3:31 pm | #20 |
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Re: What type of spool is this?
Does the QC sticky label indicate the spool originally housed electronic components?
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