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Vintage Tape (Audio), Cassette, Wire and Magnetic Disc Recorders and Players Open-reel tape recorders, cassette recorders, 8-track players etc. |
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23rd Apr 2022, 10:24 am | #22 |
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Several years ago I transferred around 80 Video 8 tapes covering 1988 through to 1995 I transferred them to hard drive but also burnt 3 complete sets of DVDs + Extra discs compilations of special interest to family and friends. My two sons immediately loaded their copies to their cloud storage.
So I have the original tapes copy on my Naz and a set of DVD. I don't know I could have done much more. All the tapes bar two I sent for professional digitisation were perfect. All tapes were Sony or Fuji ISTR. Cheers Mike T
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24th Apr 2022, 10:42 am | #25 |
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I think it was in the last year or so. Can I ask what specifically you are wanting to know here?
Here's the general website address if you want to look yourself. https://www.nfsa.gov.au/ I think it was in a "what's news" type of bulletin but most items there are more general public interest such as old TV programmes etc so it may be tricky to locate. Maybe a targetted search would find it. Doing just that I found a media release article here; https://www.nfsa.gov.au/nfsa-receive...nal-collection but I was sure there was a more technical article mentioning the specific issue of funds for videotape heads/drums. Sorry I've not been able to been able so far to locate it. Tim PS: some great stuff in the Preservation section especially on dealing with old film. Last edited by TIMTAPE; 24th Apr 2022 at 11:11 am. |
30th Apr 2022, 6:36 pm | #26 |
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For your info. At the AES 94th Convention, presented a CD from tapes recorded before 1943.
Interesting info can be found in this url: https://www.aes.org/aeshc/books+vids....mag.hist.html. Also info can be found on EBU Tech. 3202-E. (Storage of Magnetic Tapes and Cinefilms: First Part, Audio Tapes)
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30th Apr 2022, 11:31 pm | #27 |
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The CD is actually of the RRG stereo recordings from 1944. The accompanying paper details the evolution of the Magnetophon, explaining, among other things, how it was that two track inline heads were available for the construction of stereo machines. Even tapes of this period could still reproduce surprisingly well, given appropriate equipment..
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1st May 2022, 2:56 pm | #28 | |
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More info about the CD and the booklet can be found here: https://www.discogs.com/release/8230...U6MzIzNzY0Nzg=
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1st May 2022, 6:55 pm | #29 |
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Re: Tape degradation
On Ampex 2" VT machines, it was normal to use the first minute or so of tape for line-up and offering bars to the Central Apparatus Room (the technical "gods" of Television Centre), so the first part of any tape took the most hammering.
Head clog was a particular problem with tapes that had been previously used and then wiped, but I seem to recall that the internal charge per hour of tape was less for pre-used tapes, so economies made there could be spent elsewhere in the programme budget. Many programmes that would be of great interest nowadays were wiped in the interests of saving money. Life doesn't really change much, does it... |
1st May 2022, 8:52 pm | #30 |
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Good logic TIMTAPE, but to keep several backups of actual media content necessitates also keeping at least two pieces of relevant hardware able to read it. It's a considerable problem for those few domestic users aware of the issue, less so for pro organisations who have access to multiple backups across differing platforms.
Then again, for most domestic footage and audio recordings, interest in them usually disappears on the death of those within it. Sad really. |
2nd May 2022, 7:12 am | #31 | |
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Somehow I feel it fits with the idea that the ability to forget is one of the human strengths - imagine how burdensome our lives would be if we could recall every day, every second of our lives. |
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