Triumph CR 1610 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

ChasL001 · 31st Oct 2023, 9:15 am

Hello all,

I have a Triumph CR 1610 cassette "data" recorder in for repair. Am looking for a manual or circuit diagram. I know this is probably a White Label buy in by Dixons in the 80s but it's a good recorder in that it's auto level works well in terms of computer program playback and recording, which is why the owner wants it fixed.

So, maybe this model may be know under other brand names.

Any help or links gratefully received.

Pic attached for reference.

Thanks
Chas.

DMcMahon · 2nd Nov 2023, 10:23 am

A long shot Chas but have you looked inside the recorder in case there are any OEM markings as to make/model ?

For example sometimes on rebadged units removing the badged name label reveals the original maker/model details.

David

DMcMahon · 2nd Nov 2023, 10:48 am

The label picture at Post 4 of this linked Thread does support Triumph being a brand done for Currys -

https://www.google.com/url?client=in...ax91d-ek-OS0EQ

David

wd40addict · 2nd Nov 2023, 1:53 pm

What's actually wrong with it?

ben · 2nd Nov 2023, 2:30 pm

I had one badged by Boots. It needed a new flat belt IIRC.

What's wrong with that one?

G6ONEDave · 2nd Nov 2023, 4:11 pm

Hi Chas, If it helps I have a photocopied service manual that I could scan and email to you. Please PM me if this would help you.

Dave

Nickthedentist · 2nd Nov 2023, 4:26 pm

Standard £20 job from about 1987. I’ve seen them badged as all kinds of things including “Cloud 9”!

Think a tiny circuit diagram was often included in the instruction booklet.

G6ONEDave · 3rd Nov 2023, 4:03 pm

The service manual states that this model was specifically for computer program use.

Dave

G6Tanuki · 3rd Nov 2023, 4:14 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by G6ONEDave

The service manual states that this model was specifically for computer program use.

Dave

Usually meaning that the automatic level control on the record side was either recalibrated to better deal with the rather coarse but consistent-in-level CUTS tape-recording tones, or deleted altogether....

DMcMahon · 3rd Nov 2023, 4:40 pm

It has a changeover switch to switch from Normal to Compute Mode On.

The User manual cover calls it a Portable Cassette Recorder Computer Compatible.

So it sounds like when switched to Normal it would operate as a standard audio cassette unit.

David

TIMTAPE · 3rd Nov 2023, 11:07 pm

From memory it looks like a Sharp shoebox.

ben · 4th Nov 2023, 12:14 am

In my experience, the computer/norm switch on such units does one of two things: adjust the frequency cut/boost to suit the data (usually cuts the bass and very top, and boosts the middle) or enables low level monitoring via the speaker while recording or playing.

31st Oct 2023, 9:15 am	#1
ChasL001 Diode Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Chinnor, Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 6	Triumph CR 1610 Hello all, I have a Triumph CR 1610 cassette "data" recorder in for repair. Am looking for a manual or circuit diagram. I know this is probably a White Label buy in by Dixons in the 80s but it's a good recorder in that it's auto level works well in terms of computer program playback and recording, which is why the owner wants it fixed. So, maybe this model may be know under other brand names. Any help or links gratefully received. Pic attached for reference. Thanks Chas. Attached Thumbnails

2nd Nov 2023, 10:23 am	#2
DMcMahon Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Worthing, West Sussex, UK. Posts: 6,363	Re: Triumph CR 1610 A long shot Chas but have you looked inside the recorder in case there are any OEM markings as to make/model ? For example sometimes on rebadged units removing the badged name label reveals the original maker/model details. David

2nd Nov 2023, 10:48 am	#3
DMcMahon Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Worthing, West Sussex, UK. Posts: 6,363	Re: Triumph CR 1610 The label picture at Post 4 of this linked Thread does support Triumph being a brand done for Currys - https://www.google.com/url?client=in...ax91d-ek-OS0EQ David

2nd Nov 2023, 1:53 pm	#4
wd40addict Octode Join Date: May 2009 Location: Stevenage, Herts. UK. Posts: 1,483	Re: Triumph CR 1610 What's actually wrong with it?

2nd Nov 2023, 2:30 pm	#5
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,331	Re: Triumph CR 1610 I had one badged by Boots. It needed a new flat belt IIRC. What's wrong with that one? __________________ Regards, Ben.

2nd Nov 2023, 4:11 pm	#6
G6ONEDave Octode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Owston Ferry, North Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 1,536	Re: Triumph CR 1610 Hi Chas, If it helps I have a photocopied service manual that I could scan and email to you. Please PM me if this would help you. Dave __________________ Quote "All is hyperthetical, until it isn't!" (President Laura Roslin, Battlestar Galactica)

2nd Nov 2023, 4:26 pm	#7
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,567	Re: Triumph CR 1610 Standard £20 job from about 1987. I’ve seen them badged as all kinds of things including “Cloud 9”! Think a tiny circuit diagram was often included in the instruction booklet.

3rd Nov 2023, 4:03 pm	#8
G6ONEDave Octode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Owston Ferry, North Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 1,536	Re: Triumph CR 1610 The service manual states that this model was specifically for computer program use. Dave __________________ Quote "All is hyperthetical, until it isn't!" (President Laura Roslin, Battlestar Galactica)

3rd Nov 2023, 4:40 pm	#10
DMcMahon Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Worthing, West Sussex, UK. Posts: 6,363	Re: Triumph CR 1610 It has a changeover switch to switch from Normal to Compute Mode On. The User manual cover calls it a Portable Cassette Recorder Computer Compatible. So it sounds like when switched to Normal it would operate as a standard audio cassette unit. David

3rd Nov 2023, 11:07 pm	#11
TIMTAPE Octode Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,921	Re: Triumph CR 1610 From memory it looks like a Sharp shoebox.

4th Nov 2023, 12:14 am	#12
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,331	Re: Triumph CR 1610 In my experience, the computer/norm switch on such units does one of two things: adjust the frequency cut/boost to suit the data (usually cuts the bass and very top, and boosts the middle) or enables low level monitoring via the speaker while recording or playing. __________________ Regards, Ben.