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Old 8th Oct 2019, 10:14 am   #1
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Default Elizabethan tape recorder model 56

Can anyone identify this Elizabethan tape recorder please?

The valves it uses are:- EF86, ECC83, EL84, and 6X4 rectifier.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 11:06 am   #2
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Default Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?

I can't see it on Radiomusem: https://www.radiomuseum.org/m/eap-e_gb_en_1~year.html

Presumably it's one of their earliest products. The fact that the model name is simply "Elizabethan" also points to this, I suppose.

OTOH, does it say "May 1960" on one of those big caps?

Good luck with it.

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Old 8th Oct 2019, 11:08 am   #3
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Dave has something about the company here: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...87&postcount=8
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 1:13 pm   #4
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Is this the Elizabethan 56?
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 1:17 pm   #5
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This has 2 clasps for the lid instead of a lock:
ELIZABETHAN 56
52 gns.
Tape Recording and Reproduction Magazine Sept 1957 Page 25
https://www.americanradiohistory.com...UK-1957-09.pdf

54 gns in March 1958 and the Essex is 75 gns:
https://www.americanradiohistory.com...UK-1958-03.pdf

Perhaps superseded by the new Elizabethan ESCORT which is advertised at only 45 gns in June 1958 page 5:
https://www.americanradiohistory.com...UK-1958-06.pdf

"A sound idea!" if you scroll down this:
https://thevintagetoyadvertiser.org/...appy-new-year/
Not identical but a lower price of 48 gns.

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Old 8th Oct 2019, 1:54 pm   #6
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Good work, af024 and David!

Pic from the first link David's posted below...
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 2:13 pm   #7
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This looks to be in complete contrast to the far more value-engineered Elizabethan products of the early 1960s based around the BSR TD2 and Motek 3 speed decks.
Mind you they did the job well and sold in quite large volumes. And probably contributed to the demise of those Walter machines....
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 2:29 pm   #8
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It uses Collaro motors and almost looks home made.

In the above posted advert you can see that they actually use a complete Collaro deck in the 'de-luxe' model.

They must have had a deal with Collaro at the time to be able to use the motors in that in-house deck, unless, of course, the deck is actually made by Collaro for them. However, I seem to think that I've come across Collaro motors like that in other unusual in-house tape decks.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 2:43 pm   #9
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That looks like a Motek K10 deck. Decent performance with excitingly fast wind speed!

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Old 8th Oct 2019, 2:52 pm   #10
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And fitted with three Collaro motors!
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 3:22 pm   #11
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Electrolytic C’s are dated May 56.
It certainly looks like model 56.
I’ll see if there is a manual available.
Thanks for all the help.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 3:34 pm   #12
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Collaro were happy to sell motors on the open market, Scophany-Baird were one such customer, Motek look like they were another.

It could even been motor sales into the emerging tape deck market that persuaded Collaro to have a go themselves leading to the transcriptor.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 3:40 pm   #13
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Can’t locate a Elizabethan 56 service manual!
Has anybody got one I could buy or copy, or know where to get one?
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 5:55 pm   #14
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If you send a PM I can scan the circuit and data from the Hellyer book and email it to you
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 5:57 pm   #15
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I have one of these recorders hidden away. I must locate it and post some pics. I thought it was badged FIDELITY but I may be wrong. John.
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This circuit is the 56
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 11:47 am   #17
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Printed off cut. Thanks for all your help
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 5:59 pm   #18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Suede Ted View Post
The valves it uses are:- EF86, ECC83, EL84, and 6X4 rectifier.
You neglected to mention the magic-eye.
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Old Today, 12:25 pm   #19
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Has anyone got a diagram of the motor and control wiring of Elizabethan 56 tape recorder, or know where I can get one?
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