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27th Jun 2015, 9:13 pm | #21 | |
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Re: I've just bought a record player!
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Surely it's better to tinker with some sound advice at hand, rather than do it in the dark? N. |
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27th Jun 2015, 9:33 pm | #22 |
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Re: I've just bought a record player!
Unfortunately the 'Death sentence' thread is locked, so I will comment here.
I would be in favour of a simple technical test before you can post advice, but not before you can read the forums. The latter would seem to be in the same category as manufactuers who will not sell service manuals 'because you're not qualified'. This generally causes me to (a) write my own service manual for the thing and (b) buy from a different company in the future... I also don't see what is wrong with not knowing something. Are you all claiming you fully understood electronics before you pulled the back off your first radio. If so, I really don't believe you. I have lost count of the things that I didn't know how to do when I needed to do them, the result being that I taught myself. Some of the comments in the 'Death sentence' thread seem a little unreasonable. Like the one about checking the voltages on the primary of the output transformer, the chap getting odd results and it turns out he's probing the mains transformer. Faced with an unfamilar unit, I suspect many of us might not spot the output transformer instantly. As for regulations stating you don't work on live equipment, that seems to be something drawn up by somebody who has never actually done any electonic design or repair. Obviously you isolate and discharge if you can. I would not, say, remove the chassis from a radio set while it was plugged in. But I certainly would plug it in once dismantled to check voltages. I can think of no other way to trace a fault. Even if I say so myself I like to think I have some electronic knowledge. Not as much as many here, but some. But I have lost count of the number of things I didn't know and the number of mistakes I made. |
27th Jun 2015, 10:12 pm | #23 |
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Re: I've just bought a record player!
It's obvious that you have electronic knowledge Tony. that's been said already and it's why you are not included in the non technical new comers group that was mentioned. You have our general support-so far. You simply posted re a record player-there is no connection with that and these threads. It will help if you can accept this and not be tempted into rehearsing various other issues that seem to relate to your sore point but are nothing to do with it. Don't miss the point yourself.
No one has an argument with you but you will appear unreasonable if you continue to raise matters in an unrelenting fashion. The discussion is simply about making safe and helping [if we can] people with little knowledge and no real interest in technology who want something fixed but don't know the boundaries or when to stop and how fair and reasonable all this all for Forum members. It's been a long hot day Dave W Phil-I'm sure your suggestion will have been noted by everyone-certainly by me-it's possibly becoming more attractive with each new thread. Last edited by dave walsh; 27th Jun 2015 at 10:21 pm. |
28th Jun 2015, 9:26 am | #24 |
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Re: I've just bought a record player!
Re Phil's comment. I have been "playing" with electrics/electronics for more than 65 years, but certain areas of my "theory" are WEAK. However not all, and I have amassed tons of (to many) useless info.
I needed to pass such a theory test recently to download a manual. One of the questions was badly written, and as I am very pedantic, I knew the box I would tick was correct, but almost certainly not the required answer. I failed, emailed my pal, and he downloaded it for me. Yes, I am in favour of test questions, but make sure some pedantic beggar like me checks every question first, with somebody like David (RW) as a backstop. Les. |
28th Jun 2015, 10:54 am | #25 |
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Re: I've just bought a record player!
Most people today are buying record players, just like they always have done, because they want to play records and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this. In fact this is what "normal" people do.
It's our assumption that everybody wants to be electronically minded, or interested, is the problem. Perhaps once a repair gets more complicated than a new cartridge or idler then the OP should be advised to seek out a competent repairer, unless they show an genuine enthusiasm to learn? David
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28th Jun 2015, 11:00 am | #26 |
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Re: I've just bought a record player!
We think this thread is starting to get a wee bit argumentative; as it was already covered in the "Death Sentence" thread mentioned above, we'll apply the electric chair to this one as well.
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