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Old 24th Jun 2015, 11:43 pm   #41
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Hmn a blast from the past. Colin's latest post seems to be 20th April so he must have survived until then at least [there's nothing on the original problem since Xmas]. Perhaps the neighbours have moved or it's all been forgotten In which case a message on the thread is very unlikely to get a response-maybe a PM? Good luck!

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Old 25th Jun 2015, 7:53 am   #42
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Alas Dave,
It is just the same, the council are as usual U/S it is now mid summer & the vibrations in particular are still with me, especially between 4/7am!!! my wake up call. I dread another winter , however due to lack of assistance from the env. dep't I have to resort to replying in kind, not perfect but some satisfaction. My last letter from the council stated, "the premises on either side of you have been inspected nothing could be "SEEN "( I have never seen noise) that might cause the problems neither party has heard any noise" !!!!! The case is closed!

Any suggestions, apart from closing my business?

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Old 25th Jun 2015, 8:46 am   #43
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Hello this must be hell.

At certain times of the day if I am in my bathroom I can hear a quiet low frequency rumble, it reminds me of a tumble dryer..............after a lot of faffing around...........it turns out to be the fan on the multi point gas heater in the kitchen downstairs...............no sound downstairs from it, the bearings seem fine aswell..............just an odd case off wrong place and building acoustics

I wish you well with this problem
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Old 25th Jun 2015, 3:10 pm   #44
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Sorry to hear that Colin. Well you proved me wrong about posting on the thread and do seem convinced that it's the neighbours at fault. Have you been able to make any audio recordings-not withstanding your original comment that it's "not audio but acoustic"-what does that mean exactly?-surely a contact Mike would get something? Do you continue to keep records? Have you asked the neighbours for access yourself or is that difficult? Unfortunately it does seem [eg Neighbours From Hell CH4] that involving officials/police is not always helpful.

Looking elsewhere, I would agree with Dseymo1's comment [in post 20*] that reports of [unexplained] phenomena of this type are not at all unusual eg the Fortean Society has very many over the years.

Returning to the adjoining premises, a report [with video] of you actually experiencing a disturbance published on social media, including independent witnesses, would probably get things moving but I don't know if you have the resources for this. Has the local paper not shown any interest?

The side wall of my garden is the rear end of an industrial garage and my"neighbour" used to specialise in knocking a "window" in it from time to time but that's a long story involving sheet steel and concrete in the end!

This might cheer you up-I once came across a mental health investigation where the elderly lady claimed that the "Men From Mars" were keeping her awake. When common sense was applied, it was found that she lived next door to a Mars Bar factory but it's not really a joke I appreciate.

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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 11:41 am   #45
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Hi Dave,
I am well aware of the causes of the noise/vibes from both sides of me, after some nine months of hell I know every point where the vibrations are & also the routine I could map it. As stated fighting fire with fire is the only temp. solution it has helped to some degree but it is midsummer, the winter will be another matter, unless I can get out , however there is little point in contacting the env. department again & court action is lengthy & costly.

Thanks for your interest, if ever it is resolved I will advise, beware the free GREEN boilers.

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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 12:52 pm   #46
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The problem arose quite suddenly about 3 months ago & is amost constant at low level, but when it goes to high level it is excessive .Last night from 5.0pm until 9.00pm it was excessive,then again this morning it started again at 4.00am until 9.30 then went back to being low level, as I write it is constant.
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CH pump running when there's a call for heat from a room stat at the coldest point in the day does sound likely.
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...beware the free GREEN boilers.
Tell us more, Colin. We now have a newish Worcester-Bosch condensing combi boiler, and it's MUCH quieter than its 1993 equivalent that it replaced, which used to make the whole house resonate (mainly its exhaust fan).

Good luck with it.

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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 4:24 pm   #47
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Hi Nick,
Can't tell you more , never had access to either of the properties on either side of me, however the trouble started Sept. 14 when new boilers were installed in my "neighbours" premises (rental of course) the winter was diabolical, hence my call on the env.dep't . a waste of time, my hearing was at fault!!!!!! Even after 3 examinations incl.a private specialist pronounced my hearing OK apart from a loss of top response, at my age to be expected ,the problem is not at the top end in anycase.
On the single time I called the after hours service,they were late & with my luck the vibes stopped, minutes before they arrived, I was promised they would borrow or acquire a vibe monitor, this was in Mid. Feb. alas nothing apart from a letter ceasing the case
However as the worst times are in the early hours of the morning as regular as clockwork, I had to resort to my "fire on fire " op. this appears to have worked as last night I slept until 7.00am. It won't last but one good night was welcomed, albeit one goes to be bed expecting the early morning wake up, will it be 3. or 4 am??

Ah well so much for neighbours / landlords & the authorities!!!!

Cheers.

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Old 4th Jul 2015, 9:11 pm   #48
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Are you able to mask the noise in any way, such as with white noise or similar? A continuous steady sound can be less disruptive. How well it would mask your vibration I don't know. I know that's not really the solution but it might make it a bit more bearable for you, so you can get some sleep.

I live right beside the M5, but often sleep with the windows open. But when my neighbour shut his front door (not even loudly) this morning, it woke me right up!

Not all humming noises are bad : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNuI6keQXYA
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Old 4th Jul 2015, 10:50 pm   #49
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Tried the white noise, not very successful, the noise(a drone really ) complements the vibes, today continuous from 11.am , lessened slightly after all my hooveing about 10.00pm, bed now until my wake up call 3/4 am, then being awake more hoovering. Little else I can do. I had thought of the local paper. However I see an e/n/throat specialist again in a couple of weeks,maybe get my MRi scan results from April.

Ah well my pill, earpads & a scarf are calling'

All is quiet at the moment & I would like to hoover now just to show them, but will try & get a few hours sleep instead.

Cheers. Nice to have such good neighbours/landlords/either eide of me, must invite them out for a meal, any sugestions

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I would suggest that the problem is the central heating pumps. If the insulation is under "Green deal " the pumps must comply to new efficiency regulations.

These pumps can work at constant speed or variable speed, depending on the requirements. I suggest that the default setting is variable speed
(most efficient). In this mode the pump can pulse to get the required water flow through the system. As the load changes, thermostatic valves open and shut the pump changes speed to compensate.

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Old 7th Jul 2015, 9:58 am   #51
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Hi Chris,
I wouldn't know the real source as I have never had access to either of the properties, landlords like the env. dept are to say the least "unhelpful", as are the tenants. From living with the problem for months I have surmised the problems from the routine it follows, I know nothing about the boiler system, pumps etc.

You state that the system, whatever it is "should comply" etc. Who is going to ensure it is so? As mentioned, landlords, tenants, authorities are unhelpful so all the technical info is of little use to me.

However, thanks for your interest, it is appreciated,

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