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6th Oct 2018, 10:34 pm | #21 | |
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Re: Grosvenor Hotel, Edinburgh. - TV Room
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7th Oct 2018, 8:41 am | #22 |
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Re: Grosvenor Hotel, Edinburgh. - TV Room
They probably bought it brand new in 1954 and no doubt replaced it in the later 50's with maybe a 21" bow front Ekco. The post card dates from 1957. The 17T4 would have still been up to date having been designed for B3 reception.
It may have replaced a 12"or 15" console from the 1948 period such as the HMV 1806. We will never know. John. |
7th Oct 2018, 6:04 pm | #23 |
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For some reason, I now have two mental images that I just can't shake .....
One is of a young couple booking a night in a hotel just so they could watch some programmes in the TV lounge! Did people ever actually do that sort of thing in real life? The other is of a "posh" customer telephoning the hotel to make a booking, then changing their mind at the last minute upon learning that the hotel had anything as vulgar as a television set .....
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7th Oct 2018, 6:27 pm | #24 | |
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Most hotels would have such a lounge back then as did posh gentlemen's clubs, golf clubs etc. Being a separate TV lounge you were not forced to watch it. Yes, things are a lot different now. J. Just a thought. The channel 3 Kirk O Shotts transmitter would only have been on air for less than 2 years when they bought the Ferranti. |
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7th Oct 2018, 7:11 pm | #25 |
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Re: Grosvenor Hotel, Edinburgh. - TV Room
Well spotted John I did think that the TV would not have been that old. Was it installed for the coronation. I remember watching it outside with dozens of other people a mile out of our town as due to hills and the fact we were 50+ miles from Kirk o shotts reception was very poor in our area. We did do a communal system in 1958.
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7th Oct 2018, 7:17 pm | #26 |
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The Ferranti had vision AGC and loads of gain. With a pre amplifier I expect it produced a picture of good entertainment value.
Thinking about it. The Coronation broadcast would have been for many people the first time they viewed television. J. |
7th Oct 2018, 7:31 pm | #27 |
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Two improved pictures, one of the tuner unit showing the B3 channel numbers and an off screen shot taken under better lighting conditions. The tube is a non aluminised Mullard MW43-64 adjusted slightly below normal levels of brightness.
The super bright picture can easily overload the camera exposure. The B3 section of the tuner would not have been used for a number of years due to it's location. J. |
7th Oct 2018, 7:57 pm | #28 |
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Re: Grosvenor Hotel, Edinburgh. - TV Room
I remember staying at a hotel in Edinburgh with my parents in 1969.
The TV lounge had a colour set (sorry,can't recall the hotel or make of set). Only thing I recall was the terrible convergence on 405 line BBC1! |
7th Oct 2018, 8:12 pm | #29 |
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I remember a hotel in the 1970s having a television lounge off the bar. We had bar lunches in there (because children weren't allowed in the bar). IIRC it was something like a lecture theatre with banquettes in rows!
To further confuse the dating slightly, the photo on the postcard may have been taken at a different time from the other photos, or the postcard being printed or used. |
8th Oct 2018, 1:50 pm | #30 |
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These days, my advice is to avoid those hotels which still advertise colour TV as a selling point!
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8th Oct 2018, 3:30 pm | #31 |
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...or running water and gas fires in every room
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8th Oct 2018, 4:01 pm | #32 |
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The television lounge is really a thing of the past now, as customers expect TV in every room. And not just a portable, either - recently had to replace all the 24" sets in a hotel with 32". And also have a 37" in from another hotel from a relatively small bedroom. The latter hotel has a nice lounge, wood burning stove, well stocked bar...and NO TV!
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8th Oct 2018, 7:39 pm | #33 | |
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"There was also, tucked down a passage, in a secretive way, a television room for those who asked for it." I can certainly remember such television lounges in hotels before it became "compulsory" to have one per bedroom. What I don't quite remember is the protocol for changing the channel when there were others in the the room.
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8th Oct 2018, 8:22 pm | #34 |
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We had two TV rooms per hall at university, 1980s. Channel choice was a show of hands (there were only four channels anyway) and sometimes a mad dash between halls trying to find somewhere that wasn't showing Eastenders ...
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8th Oct 2018, 11:28 pm | #35 |
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Indeed the BBC's Miss Marple version of At Bertrams shows their 50's TV lounge a few times. They're watching what looks to me like another Ferranti, looks like a T1205 or similar. Quite difficult to tell.
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I remember a friend telling me of their first experience of their university's TV room. He was surprised to find everyone going in to watch Basil Brush which was surely too juvenile to attract 18-21 year olds. Then he realised that it was the only way to get a good seat for Dr Who which followed.
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10th Oct 2018, 12:15 am | #37 |
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When I was at Aston University in the early 1990s, there were three separate communal TV rooms in the off-campus Halls of Residence at Handsworth; one nominally for BBC1, one for ITV and one for either BBC2 or Channel 4.
Nowadays there probably are more channels on air than there were chairs in all those rooms ..... A lot of people had their own sets, even back then. If only I had not been afraid of working on TVs ..... but I had heard far too many horror stories of people resting in pieces after accidents with pre-war, mains-transformer-derived EHT circuits
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10th Oct 2018, 12:25 am | #38 |
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Call me daft but what seems to have been missed, in all the talk about a Ferranti TV being watched, is that the post card is showing the guests watching BBC Test Card C. You can see the castellations and circle etc.
Perhaps the young couple were interested in the soothing, almost romantic music played during those Trade Transmissions but then it would have been during the morning to say until 4pm. Even if I had been a little shy, I am not sure I could have sat through too much of a Trade Transmission before suggesting........... I'll stop there. |
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