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Old 27th Jan 2024, 12:27 pm   #1
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Default Please help me find out what set this is (identified as Murphy Astra Mk2 TM5)

Very recently picked this up out of the skip I've not seen one like this before and would like some help finding out what it is there aren't any indicators to a brand or model that I can see and Google isn't much help so any help would be appreciated
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 1:04 pm   #2
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Hi,
I'm not certain, but it has a 'Bush' look about it?
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 1:11 pm   #3
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It's Murphy manufacture before the linkup with Rank, part of the Astra range complete with UHF converter but not seen that styling before. Might be a British Relay set?

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Old 27th Jan 2024, 1:26 pm   #4
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Very recently picked this up out of the skip I've not seen one like this before and would like some help finding out what it is there aren't any indicators to a brand or model that I can see and Google isn't much help so any help would be appreciated
Definitely a Murphy Astra chassis set, but not one that was sold through Murphy dealers. It looks like there is an escutcheon missing around the three rotary controls.

As has already been said, it was probably made specially for a rental company. The mains input panel is non-standard. There is a small paper label stuck onto it which will be the model number. Please post the model number here.

Murphy Radio was a shareholder of British Relay.

I think forum member murphymad has a very similar set to this one:https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=141001

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Old 27th Jan 2024, 1:33 pm   #5
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These images from an earlier thread might be useful.
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=99269
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 2:18 pm   #6
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The mains input panel is non-standard. There is a small paper label stuck onto it which will be the model number. Please post the model number here.
Ok it says TM5 I don't know how I didn't see that people would swear I was blind.
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 2:33 pm   #7
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Never seen this set but I sort of remember that there was a cheaper version of Astra for rental via Murphy dealers. This has conversion kit and flywheel sync board fitted. Very rare set now and probably then.
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 4:15 pm   #8
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Is that a oil filled loptx there?, definitely Murphy before the Rank takeover, i don't recognise the chassis though.
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 4:39 pm   #9
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I cannot remember the model but it was a Murphy ,I thought at the time this is a up market t/v we were sent out to fit a UHF convertor this was something to behold a rather posh wooden surround thing that fitted at the bottom of the set .I do remember it worked very well on the customers new UHF aerial . Happy days .Mick.
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Never seen this set but I sort of remember that there was a cheaper version of Astra for rental via Murphy dealers.
Yes, a 19” model V739, with the Astra Mark 2 chassis.
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 5:06 pm   #11
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 5:44 pm   #12
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Definitely a Murphy, I converted dozens of these with the under-cabinet converter, when I was with Rediffusion.
You could go & make a cup of tea & wait for the converter valves to warm up, once you'd switched to '625'!

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Old 27th Jan 2024, 6:27 pm   #13
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A very nice set to be found in a skip , a lucky find and in nice condition.
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Old 27th Jan 2024, 11:58 pm   #14
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Just thought i'd mention anybody who wants it is welcome to it as I don't have the space to keep it
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Hello Just-In,

Thank you for posting this for all us Murphy nuts to see.

You do indeed have a model TM5 (TM means Terminal)

These were used with 'cable' or 'relay' systems in towns where the general TV reception or choice was limited. Usually a local company would be set up something like Radio-Rentals or Rediffusion etc.

Murphy made a number of different TM sets using the Astra and later the Bush TV115/TV125 chassis.

The cabinet styling with the 'cheaper' plastic front panel gives the clue that this was for the rental market.

I would certainly like to give it a good home and look after it.
It could join the others in my collection of Astra based TV's.
As has been said, I do have two other different TM sets in my collection.

I can probably arrange to get it collected from you by a Glasgow based collector who travels south quite often if your offer still stands.

All the best,

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Old 28th Jan 2024, 4:03 am   #16
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I can probably arrange to get it collected from you by a Glasgow based collector who travels south quite often if your offer still stands
Hi mike what you've just said sounds wonderful but beforehand so I don't feel bad I would like to explain the condition a bit more.
So in some places you can't see from the pictures in my initial post there is little places where some little pieces of the veneer on the converter are missing.
and there is a bit of veneer missing from the top back left corner of the tv.
Other than that some of the knobs at the back of the tv are pretty gubbed some of them are held together with glue and are loose.
And the panel on the bottom of the converter is bending downwards and doesn't seem to be in the best shape. Ask me if you want pictures but if you're fine with all that then I'd be more than happy for someone to come pick it up.
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Old 28th Jan 2024, 5:21 pm   #17
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Never seen this set but I sort of remember that there was a cheaper version of Astra for rental via Murphy dealers.
Yes, a 19” model V739, with the Astra Mark 2 chassis.
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Old 28th Jan 2024, 5:33 pm   #18
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I reckon that could be an Ex-Rediffusion model. It looks exactly as I remember them. This of course is an Aerial-version. I think we gave them the model number RT/159/19.
I seem to remember it was called a 'Majorca'. There should be a gold coloured self-adhesive trim in the section above the tuner knob. Pretty good condition for its age. I wonder if the CRT is soft...

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