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19th May 2019, 9:38 pm | #1 |
Hexode
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Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
A while ago I was talking with a friend who recalled some early Scottish television series that they had watched when they were originally broadcast, and would love to see again. They were:
Unfortunately TVBrain seems to require a 'Gold Subscription' to access the database for the other two shows, and I'm a bit reluctant to pay a £50 annual subscription just to look up two shows. I don't suppose there is anyone here that has such a subscription and would be willing to lookup both 'Weir of Hermiston' and 'The Flight of the Heron' and see what (if any) episodes are known to exist? |
22nd May 2019, 9:53 am | #2 |
Nonode
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
I remember seeing the second title back then. All have been/are available on DVD if searched, note these may be in the public domain if the copyright has expired, but could be transfers from original film (telerecording) or VT.
Despite modern restoration techniques, for a small market the cost may be uneconomic. |
22nd May 2019, 3:24 pm | #3 |
Hexode
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
I had looked for all these (what I thought was quite extensively) and drawn a blank, but having searched again today I found this page that appears to sell various old-TV DVDs, including "Flight of the Heron". (I may also contact them about the other two series, on the off chance that they have them as well).
So thank you very much, Restoration73 - that appears to be one off the list. I don't suppose you have any more information about the DVD releases of the other two series? It probably requires someone more adept at google-fu than me, but I can't find anything. |
22nd May 2019, 4:40 pm | #4 |
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
Link is missing.
It wasn't 'Stojo' by any chance? |
22nd May 2019, 4:59 pm | #5 |
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22nd May 2019, 5:02 pm | #6 |
Hexode
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
Yes, that's the one! (Sorry about that, completely forgot to actually add the link!)
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22nd May 2019, 5:29 pm | #7 | |
Heptode
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
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According to Lost Shows both 'Weir of Hermiston' and 'Flight of the Heron' entirely exist and that is why your not seeing much info on them on Lost Shows, if there were episodes missing or not in their master format then Lost Shows would be more detailed. The IMDB has info on the cast in the episodes but not a plot description https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1417566/reference and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398466/reference I seem to recall Moultrie Kessall got criticism as the writer of 'flight of the heron' and told he should have stuck to acting by one ungenerous critic. Shows that were made for the network you could probably get directly from ITV.https://www.itv.com/presscentre/content/contact However they may charge a couple of hundred pounds for a bespoke DVD of a series that may not have got an official release yet. Also the BFI may have them as well? The other thing is that Scottish TV is a bit of a loose cannon on the network, so you may be able to get them directly from them? BTW. 'Public Domain' is an American thingy and does not apply in the UK. Although if a brit show was shown in the US and the copyright was not renewed (after I think 50 years) then it would become PD over there. |
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22nd May 2019, 6:39 pm | #8 |
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
The Public Domain does exist in the UK; Copyright is merely a sweetener to encourage people to contribute works to it. However, the duration of copyright protection in the UK was historically longer than in the USA.
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22nd May 2019, 8:18 pm | #9 | |
Heptode
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
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Probably in a different context? For example a television drama anthology series made in the UK was discovered a while back called " The Errol Flynn Theatre" made in the 1950s, attempts to find the copyright owner by those who have found the prints have proved fruitless, as obviously everyone associated with this is probably dead and rights ownership was probably never sold on to a big distributor in the light of Errol Flynn's own death...so they remain in limbo as they cannot be shown in the UK because of copyright protection. Now in the US a similar situation arose with a show called 'One Step Beyond' they could not find a copyright owner (or someone who later bought the rights) so this has gone into public domain and anybody can do what they like with it, until a distributor comes along and offers the gov some dosh to renew the copyright protection. |
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22nd May 2019, 11:13 pm | #10 |
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
Copyright law in the US was long different from the rest of the world in that you had to file a copy of the work with the library of Congress to get copyright protection. Elsewhere, copyright came into existence automatically . The US only fell into line with the rest of the world in the late 1990's. I forget what the transitional arrangements were, if any, but for older stuff, no registration= no copyright in the USA, hence public domain in the USA. Copyright would still exist in other countries. Copyright law is fiendishly complex and the goalposts get changed periodically, often by international agreements that always seem to extend protection. Paying to renew copyright, once only, is a peculiarly US thing. Elsewhere it comes into existence and remains in force until it expires.
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23rd May 2019, 8:06 am | #12 |
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Re: Searching for "Lost" TV shows - anyone have a TVBrain Gold subscription?
I remember seeing a BBC documentary series called "The Lost Peace" in the early 1970s.
I've not been able to find any trace of it about from a few references. |
23rd May 2019, 2:20 pm | #13 | |
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