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11th Oct 2017, 10:38 am | #1 |
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Ferranti 545 power supply
I need some explaining re the series power supply circuit markings. On the dropper resistor I would assume the 16, 17, 20, 18 are the value of the resistance in ohms. The varite on the dropper is 20 ohm? The varite in parallel with the dial lamp is 25 Ohm? It reads 800. Can these be replaced with a normal resistor.
I assume the 270, 250 is the voltage input select, whats the 746? How does a Varite differ from a resistor. Thanks. |
11th Oct 2017, 10:45 am | #2 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
The 16,17 etc are the reference numbers for the components list. The 270, 250,746 are the resistors values in ohms.
The varite is a negative temperature coefficient resistor, that is high value when cold and low value when hot. This limits the switch on surge from cold, current through the varite heats it up and the resistance falls.
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
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Varite is another name for a thermistor. The resistance of a Varite changes with temperature, if cold at switch on it's resistance is comparatively high to its hot resistance, from cold some current flows which results in heat, the heat produced causes it's resistance to reduce, causing more current to flow causing more heat etc etc. EDIT: Post crossed. Lawrence. Last edited by ms660; 11th Oct 2017 at 11:06 am. |
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11th Oct 2017, 3:43 pm | #4 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
...so in a nutshell, you can't replace the 'varite' with an ordinary resistor. Unless it's physically broken it should be fine. The one in parallel with the lamp won't do much unless the lamp has failed. It's there primarily to keep the radio operating when the lamp fails.
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11th Oct 2017, 7:02 pm | #5 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
Looks like there is nothing out of spec unless bits of the dropper are open circuit.
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12th Oct 2017, 6:47 pm | #6 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
Hya, thanks for all the replies. The one on the voltage dropper has broken, just two end caps left. What could I use as a substitute? Thanks
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12th Oct 2017, 7:49 pm | #7 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
Possibly a VA1010 if you can find one, if not then search for a modern equivalent, something around 200 ohms at 100ma and in the kohms at 25 degrees C.
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12th Oct 2017, 8:55 pm | #8 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
I have been looking and searching a little more, easier at home with a PC and not a phone screen. Most of what I am finding is ones rated at 3A or so, so I assume will never warm up enough to drop resistance.
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13th Oct 2017, 10:40 am | #9 |
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Re: Ferranti 545 power supply
You could try the wanted post section of the forum or look for a scrap chassis that uses a Varite .
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