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16th Nov 2022, 8:47 pm | #1 |
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The Gramophone Company 78’s
Looking through a pile of 78’s I discovered these.
The limited info I could find online would suggest the labels were used pre 1907 yet the date on one looks to be 1927. Does anyone know more? Thanks, Bill |
16th Nov 2022, 11:25 pm | #2 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
Never seen one, I suspect they were later superceded by acetates for advance copies. Presumably these are shellac.
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16th Nov 2022, 11:59 pm | #3 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
The date looks like 1922, so pre electrical recording. Vintage acoustically recorded advance promotion records.
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17th Nov 2022, 12:11 am | #4 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
Also, I note that the covers are advertising Bandmaster gramophones. If these were new enough to be electrical recordings I believe that part of the embossed number (or symbol) in the run-out groove area would indicate which make of electrical recording apparatus was used for the recording.
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17th Nov 2022, 12:13 am | #5 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
The Gramophone Company became HMV in 1912
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17th Nov 2022, 12:15 am | #6 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
The 22 could be a badly written 11, so 1911.
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17th Nov 2022, 1:01 am | #7 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
My guess would be that they felt no need to update the labels on these pre-release discs to use the HMV name. Albert Coates became the LSO's chief conductor in 1919, and a Google Groups user has uploaded a recording of him conducting the orchestra (well, a part of it anyway...) in Till Eugenspiegel, dating the recording session as November 4th, 1921:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.musi...MRZYaIUJ?pli=1 Paul |
17th Nov 2022, 8:36 am | #8 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
Nice bit of detective work Paul
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27th Nov 2022, 4:13 pm | #9 |
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Re: The Gramophone Company 78’s
YT just offered me a Gramophone pre-release disc of this style, with Soprano Adelaide Saraceni and baritone Apollo Granforte in a recording made on 20th June 1930
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