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Old 24th Apr 2018, 2:14 pm   #21
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I don't think that's correct about no celluloid being involved. AFAIK,films were almost all still being shot on 35mm film up to the mid Noughties and there are still plenty shot on film to this day, including the latest Star Wars series. I know the negative is quickly scanned to digital for post-production, but what I don't know is how the movie is distributed these days - still on reels of film or just enormous video files downloaded and projected from a video device?
I think very little is shot on film now, apart from anything else there are vitually no processing labs left, I think the few cinematographers who still use film have to go abroad to get it processed.

All the business in film scanning is now archive work, there is little or no new neg scanning being done.
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Having just bought an enormous (to me) 28" 1080x1960 TV (the old one went dim) I looked for a suitable source to show its benefits, plumped for "The Great Escape" on blu ray, super picture quality (good plot with real acting too). They must have scanned the original negative to get it that good. I got the blu ray player (with inbuilt network connectivity) to play my old films, documentaries and of course the BVWS DVD content that reside on my server, the blu ray bit is a bonus.

On topic bit... moving pictures are still called video which, in my opinion, means a DC to a few MHz analogue signal.
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...Although in the TV industry, moving pictures on film are the OPPOSITE to 'video'.
It's all down to Jargon, I suppose.
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 7:26 pm   #25
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Some of the previous posts struck a chord.

When we got our first hard drive recorder replacing our VHS recorder my wife insisted on talking about rewinding the recording.......

Now I cannot operate the PVR thing in the corner that's the wife's domain

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Old 24th Apr 2018, 7:38 pm   #26
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I don't like the word 'movie', it's just another twee Americanism as far as I'm concerned. Films will always be "films" in my parlance, and as pointed out by previous posters, still very apt.
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When information was parochial, the language was understood by those involved. Since the Internet, everyone's an expert or at least knows the lingo, even if they get a bit mixed up sometimes!
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I'm afraid I still put a shout out on the PA at work: 'Would such-and-such please dial xxx'

We now use VoIP telephony.
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 10:53 pm   #29
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Section 5B(1) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (which section deals with the copyright in films), defines "film" as follows.

"In this Part, "film" means a recording on any medium from which a moving image may by any means be produced."


So video recordings are "films" for the purposes of UK copyright law, and, on the face of it, are a child's "flick book" and a sequence of photos taken by a still camera in motor-drive mode. Not that I think there have been any decisions on the last two.
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One of the terms my grandchildren use is “rip” which I think means “record” or “copy”, I don’t like the term but I’m used to it now.
Ripping originally referred to reading an audio CD in a computer drive and storing the contents on the hard drive, so its meaning started out very specific.
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I have a couple of books here at home both of which are entitled "The Admiralty Handbook of Wireless & Telegraphy", one dated 1921 & the other dated 1938. The terminology in these is quite amusing with reference to coulombs, mics & jars. Even high frequency alternators, Poulsen Arc transmitters & many other eye opening devices!
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I have a pre-war CPRE book about Cornwall which talks about all the new "electricity standards". It took me a while to realise we now call them pylons.
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Since we are discussing terminology used for vintage technology, how about 'TV' - when used to mean a Television Set? I believe this term was unknown before 1948 and may have originated in the US.

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"Free Grid" had a whinge about it here:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/...earch=%22tv%22

Radioscope....RS....probable confusion these days.

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Since we are discussing terminology used for vintage technology, how about 'TV' - when used to mean a Television Set? I believe this term was unknown before 1948 and may have originated in the US.
Not just for the receiving apparatus, but for the entire industry.
I would argue that, as a simple abbreviation, was inevitable.

TV sets were called Televisors, and not just mechanical ones.
CRTs were called a kinescopes, and the same word described the process of filming one, also known as telerecording.

"Viewers" were known as all sorts of things, including "lookers in".
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 11:48 am   #36
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I wrote "to mean a Television Set" intentionally. For back in 1926, Baird's licensed transmitter bore the name "2 TV".

However no one called the first mechanical receivers TVs. Instead, the term "Televisor" was common.

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Old 25th Apr 2018, 12:26 pm   #37
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"Wireless" has changed form a noun, "Vintage Technology", to an adjective, "Modern Technology".
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 2:25 pm   #38
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"Wireless" was originally an adjective which came to be used as a noun but is now used as an adjective again.
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I'm afraid I still put a shout out on the PA at work: 'Would such-and-such please dial xxx'
But still understood natively, even if pedantically incorrect. Telephony abbreviations can go back much further. Ringing off for ending the call for instance, or off hook when it was a cradle for years.
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My children always seem to insist on referring to the 45 rpm singles I let them play as CDs
Similarly when one of mine was little, I was playing an LP and when I took it off the turntable he piped up and said ' That's a big CD Daddy'!

He also used to call my oscilloscope a 'sillyscope'.
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