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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 11:27 am   #1
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Default Wooden beading for "Stork" Loudspeaker

This has been staring down at me from a high shelf for a long time so I'm looking at the options for restoration. Apart from bits of the plywood delaminating and breaking off there is a length (about 6") of trim missing from the lower edge. So does anyone know of a source for this stuff? Each "bead" is approx. 6mm dia.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 2:16 pm   #2
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Default Re: Wooden beading for "Stork" Loudspeaker

The answer to your question is "no" - but enquiries to furniture/antique restorers may yield some positive replies. Alternatively - you may have to make a mould and cast it.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 2:59 pm   #3
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You could try searching on picture framing materials. This is an example of what you might find:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20cm-Bead...IAAOSw2ohd3n3z

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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 4:57 pm   #4
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It's not a practical proposition to get an exact match made as it would be too costly, but it might be of interest to know how such beading was made by cabinet makers of yesteryear, and most likely by antique restorers today. Many embellishments look at first sight as though they were turned on a lathe then cut in half lengthwise on a bandsaw, but anyone who has used a bandsaw will know that's not a possibility.

Such embellishments were used extensively in the 1930s, and later to adorn 'Utility Furniture' to make it look less plain.

Some time ago I needed to make a trim (sometimes know as a 'Tudor Drop') to fit to the end panels of an antique oak freestanding bookcase for my son, as one end trim was missing. I asked a retired cabinet maker who is a member of the woodturning Club I belong to how to go about it as I knew I couldn't slice it down on my bandsaw after turning it on the lathe.

He told me the 'trick of the trade' which they used, which had never occurred to me. He said they used to do it by gluing two sticks of the required length together with newspaper using hide glue. The stick is then turned to the required profile then placed in hot water to melt the glue and separate the two halves. It worked like a charm.

The sketch below makes the technique clearer. On a long length of fragile trim it would of course need to be supported on a 'steady' to prevent it whipping about when being turned. No doubt trims made on a commercial scale in factories used steamed timber passed through rollers under pressure to deform the fibres to the desired profile.

No help at all in answering Dikie's query, but I hope it may be of passing interest.

Good luck in finding a matching trim - the example that Alan ('agriff') gave the link to was well spotted.
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Often wondered how it was done in days gone by. Fascinating insight, thank you.

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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 5:33 pm   #6
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Yes, me too. Thanks David. And also thanks to Alan & co. for the ideas. I had done a google image search and come across the large-section mouldings but nothing small enough. I suspect moulding my own will be the only way to go.
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Is the beading in the link of no interest? Thought it looked to be about the right size at 5mm width.

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If not a close enough match, you might have to take the rest off and replace it all.

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Yes, me too. Thanks David. And also thanks to Alan & co. for the ideas. I had done a google image search and come across the large-section mouldings but nothing small enough. I suspect moulding my own will be the only way to go.
I didn't cover in my earlier post how the 'beads' would be formed. An experienced woodturner would use a small skew chisel or parting tool, but there are 'beading tools' which less experienced woodturners can use to get uniform repetitive beads, though they're not cheap. In any event, to make beads of the exact size that you need, the tool would need to be exactly the right size.

You could make a beading tool from an old flat woodworking chisel of the right width by grinding the tip to shape as shown in the rough (not to scale!) sketch below. There's an example here of a woodturning gouge ground to make it into a bead forming tool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ03n8vt2kw

These are manufactured beading tools:

https://www.turners-retreat.co.uk/to...ing-tools/c191

No use without a lathe of course.

If you don't feel that the beading that Alan spotted will be a good match, as David, 'Radio Wrangler' says, maybe your only option would be to replace it all.
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Another alternative would be to just replace the whole of the bottom section if close enough. It's expensive stuff for what it is I guess. The same company also do a longer 75cm length at 6.99 which is more economical per unit length.

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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 7:25 pm   #11
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Although its "5mm width/depth" its only a right angle section so I would need to glue two together which would be way to big. At least, that's how I read it.
As both Davids say, if it's not an exact match one's eye will be immediately drawn to it. Plenty of food for thought though. Thanks to all.
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Yes I see what you mean about the right angle. Hope you manage to find an acceptable solution anyway.

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